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Keep the pressure on China! 4 more years!!!


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You are insinuating kasi na they really are closet socialists just using the term democratic socialism to make the concept more palatable when they have publicly denied that already.

There is a difference between democratic socialism and socialism. But technically, some say Sanders' ideas are neither. He's more of a social democrat. Yes, the terms may have been misused but many people especially Americans don't know them either so it's important to look at the policies and not just the terms they're using. There is a reason why they're popular to Americans, many people like it even some Republicans.

Understanding Democratic Socialism - YouTube

Bernie Sanders is NEITHER a Socialist nor a Democratic Socialist - YouTube


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My skepticism about their political agenda is valid because their views can be described as social democracy but they're claiming that it's democratic socialism.

There's only a slight difference between democratic and traditional socialists and it's mainly about the way of achieving socialism(workers controlling the means of production/labor theory of value applied).
Endgame for both is to eventually abolish capitalism. In Marx's theory of historical materialism, the stages of society goes like this: feudalism > capitalism > socialism > communism

Yes, it's important to look at the policies they're pushing and what I brought up might seem a needless obsession over technicalities but a clear distinction has to be made in this case. It's also important to gauge how far they'll go. Where do the reforms stop?
I might be wrong with Bernie but AOC on the other hand calls capitalism "irredeemable".

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[Little Missy]

My skepticism about their political agenda is valid because their views can be described as social democracy but they're claiming that it's democratic socialism.

There's only a slight difference between democratic and traditional socialists and it's mainly about the way of achieving socialism(workers controlling the means of production/labor theory of value applied).
Endgame for both is to eventually abolish capitalism. In Marx's theory of historical materialism, the stages of society goes like this: feudalism > capitalism > socialism > communism

Yes, it's important to look at the policies they're pushing and what I brought up might seem a needless obsession over technicalities but a clear distinction has to be made in this case. It's also important to gauge how far they'll go. Where do the reforms stop?
I might be wrong with Bernie but AOC on the other hand calls capitalism "irredeemable".

Democratic socialism rejects 1. authoritarianism and 2. the style where the government takes over the means of production. Those are two main aspects that people are scared about socialism and without those, that's the difference. If you look at the illustration though, Social Democracy is not too far away from Democratic Socialism. Also, it's not as if he's doing a North Korea calling himself a democratic republic but is actually a dictatorship, it's the other way. Bernie is putting himself in a bad position when he calls himself a democratic socialist when he is not (because the word socialism puts people off).

While you're obsessing about technicalities (your words not mine), the policies they promote are about improving the lives of people and the working class. Even the analysts who pointed out thay they're using the wrong term aren't alarmed because at the end of the day, they're still about making lives better. Misused of words in this case doesn't necessarily mean being deceitful. If you're skeptic about them because of it just look at how they stand on other issues.

I'm not even a Bernie fan (AOC maybe) but when you say they have other agendas I'm compelled to comment about it. This will be my last response.




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"Not every disagreement is a fight".

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Lincoln Project anti-Trump ads:

Trumpfeld | YouTube



With sitcom laugh track.


Nationalist Geographic | YouTube



Narrator (in David Attenborough's voice): "Behold the rare small pawed Trump. Impotus Americanus. Notable for its exotic plumage, the Trump is a typically a ruddy orange color not found in nature... Impotus Americanus is know to be a Master of Deception and considered the most corrupt of its species... Impotus Americanus is considered endangered this November due to its own incompetence and failure."

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Trump and his covidiots...

Sociopathic traits linked to non-compliance with mask guidelines and other COVID-19 containment measures

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Trouble for Trump as Fox News praises 'enormously effective' Biden speech | The Guardian
by Tom McCarthy
Aug. 21, 2020

Under pressure on the last day of the Democratic convention, Joe Biden “hit a home run” with an “enormously effective” speech that blew “a big hole” in Donald Trump’s efforts to paint him as a mentally faltering captive of his party’s left wing.

And that was to hear Fox News hosts Dana Perino and Chris Wallace tell it.

“It was a very good speech,” added Karl Rove, a Republican strategist respected and reviled on either side of the aisle.

Even Fox News Is Praising Joe Biden | YouTube

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‘#Unfit: The Psychology of Donald Trump’ Review: A Documentary Dissects the President’s Malignant Narcissism | Variety
Putting Donald Trump on the couch has become a national pastime, and this movie does it well.
by Owen Gleiberman
Aug. 21, 2020

Trump is the kind of screw-loose blowhard who has inspired all too many of us to play armchair psychiatrist. We’ve been putting him on the couch for the entire run of his presidency. So most, if not all, of the insights presented by the upcoming documentary “#Unfit: The Psychology of Donald Trump” (it drops on Aug. 28) will be familiar to any student of TISDS (Trump Is Seriously Deranged Syndrome).

Trump, as Dan Partland’s film explains, is a malignant narcissist. (Has there ever been a DSM diagnosis that sounded like more of a direct insult?) The film details the four qualities in Trump that define that syndrome: his paranoia (the feeling that any journalist who asks him a challenging question, or any staff member who doesn’t kiss his ring, is out to get him); his anti-social personality disorder (the constant lying, the lack of remorse about even the most destructive things he does); the sadism (the thousands of vicious attacks and insults in his tweets); and…well, the narcissism (do I need to detail that?).

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'Donald is cruel': Trump's sister Maryanne is secretly recorded by his niece Mary saying 'you can't trust him' and talking about how he had a friend take his exams to get into college | Daily Mail
by Rachel Sharp
23 August 2020

Donald Trump's sister said her brother has 'no principles', 'you can't trust him' and he has been 'lying' throughout his presidency, according to secret audio recorded by the president's niece.

Maryanne Trump Barry, 83, slammed the president for his 'phoniness' and called him 'cruel' over his controversial migrant policies where thousands of children were separated from their families and held in detention centers.

The president's older sister dismissed Trump's intelligence saying 'he doesn't read' and cited some of his only accomplishments as his 'five bankruptcies'.

One of the most telling revelations in the leaked recordings, obtained by the Washington Post, is the confirmation that Maryanne was the source of claims made in Mary Trump's explosive memoir that the president paid someone to take his SATs.

In the shock recording, Maryanne says she did his homework for him and 'drove him around New York City to try to get him into college' before she named Joe Shapiro as the man who took his exams.