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    #71
    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    Timing Lang iyong topic na sinagot ko kahapon Dito Kasi kagabi I was in a gathering w/c included a gentleman who works intimately in the halls of the senate. so i decided to I ask him if there were any news in the senate about the loose talk that the bnp will be possibly revived by Marcos jr.

    So to make a long story short, the answer I got was Malabo daw since the majority of the residents of Bataan province are vociferously against the nuclear power plant's reopening. Another thing he Pointed out was rebooting /retooling it is just too expensive since the technology used there is obsolete already. But the thing is , there are countries still using the very same 46 year old tech the bnp similarly has to this day.

    The plan that's been gaining traction is to instead construct small modular reactors in several key locales. I was told it's more efficient, less costly to maintain , and it has a lower carbon footprint.

    Anyhow, the interesting conversation was fueled by scotch and beer so baka may mga hyperbole and stuff kaya take it w/ a grain of salt. [emoji16]



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    i gather, the answer is,
    "we can resurrect it, but there are now better and cheaper options" .
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    Payag ako, but siguro on one condition:

    All:
    -gov't officials responsible for its operation;
    -entire legislature (upper & lower house);
    -the president and vice president;
    -and all the relatives of the above w/in the 4th degree (cons./aff.)

    Must live permanently within a 5km radius of the plant while it is in operation, and remain there until it shuts down without any risk of contamination.

    Tignan natin kundi tumino patakbo diyan
    I doubt may matapang though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_on View Post
    Payag ako, but siguro on one condition:

    All:
    -gov't officials responsible for its operation;
    -entire legislature (upper & lower house);
    -the president and vice president;
    -and all the relatives of the above w/in the 4th degree (cons./aff.)

    Must live permanently within a 5km radius of the plant while it is in operation, and remain there until it shuts down without any risk of contamination.

    Tignan natin kundi tumino patakbo diyan
    I doubt may matapang though
    would you settle for,
    "if all the workers administering to its functions, were to live around the area" ?

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    #74
    Interesting turn of events.

    Marcos jr is in talks right now w/ USA manufacturers of "modular" nuclear reactors. While in Germany , the gov't is closing down their last operating atomic power plants.


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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    Interesting turn of events.

    Marcos jr is in talks right now w/ USA manufacturers of "modular" nuclear reactors. While in Germany , the gov't is closing down their last operating atomic power plants.


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    simple answer... They (Germany) can afford it.

    a couple of months ago, I kept asking people bakit ito galing dito? bakit ito pinili ng gov't etc?

    Then someone told me... sila nag-pa-utang, kaya sila kailangan natin gamitin.

    If a loan is granted by a specific country, yung contractor is kanila. so basically, an American company was willing to loan us nuclear reactors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    simple answer... They (Germany) can afford it.

    a couple of months ago, I kept asking people bakit ito galing dito? bakit ito pinili ng gov't etc?

    Then someone told me... sila nag-pa-utang, kaya sila kailangan natin gamitin.

    If a loan is granted by a specific country, yung contractor is kanila. so basically, an American company was willing to loan us nuclear reactors.
    The process has been ongoing since the 2010s. Germany found it cheaper to use Russsian gas.

    Re: Foreign loans look like "aid" to the recipient but its actually a way to stimulate the granting country's economy as well. They provide a market for their own products and expertise. So USAid will tend to go with American contractors and companies, JICA with Japanese ones, etc. The recipient government though has to put up an equal amount, termed as counterpart (in the form of local money+labor/personnel/subcontractors). China in PRRD's time almost did the same, except they took everything including using Chinese laborers, which is odd.

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    #77
    after mawala ung russian gas germany still went ahead with the phase out of their remaining nuclear plants

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    after mawala ung russian gas germany still went ahead with the phase out of their remaining nuclear plants
    yes. they can afford LNG to replace it.

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    #79
    american LNG is much more expensive than russian gas

    actually germany is using a lot of coal




    so much for being green

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    #80
    how did germany generate electricity during this past winter (absent russian gas)

    Coal Keeps Germany’s Lights On - WSJ



    the supposedly green germany

    haha

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