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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    so that was the reason why the Muslim insurgency in Mindanao had taken its root, right?

    jabidah was the name of the unit of more or less 160 tausug who were trained secretly by the military in order to sow terror in sabah. the objective then was to annex sabah.
    siguro para ibigay ito (sabah) sa kanila at hindi ang mindanao. tsaka syempre dahil na rin sa natural resources nito. nakita lang siguro ng karamihan that time kung ano lang nasa ibabaw. hindi yung nasa kalaliman nito.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    Dalawang paraan lang ang pwedeng gawin para ma solve ang insurgency problem sa Mindanao.

    1. Crush them.
    2. Give Mindanao and Palawan to them.

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    Dalawang paraan lang ang pwedeng gawin para ma solve ang insurgency problem sa Mindanao.

    1. Crush them.
    2. Give Mindanao and Palawan to them.
    Teka, bakit nasama Palawan. 10% lang sila rito, dayo pa. Mindanao lang sa kanila, hindi puwede at hindi mangyayari na mapunta Palawan sa ARMM or Mindanao. 100% sure ako dyan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suvfanatic View Post
    I think we can learn a thing or two how the Sri Lankan government ended the insurgency in their land.
    is there a parallel between pravakharan's LTTE and Ebrahim's milf? can we afford the cost of a civil war? by the way, what did the sri lankan military do to counter and eventually to win the most vicious insurgency campaign the world had ever seen? state it here so that we can traverse if it can be replicated here.*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Teka, bakit nasama Palawan. 10% lang sila rito, dayo pa. Mindanao lang sa kanila, hindi puwede at hindi mangyayari na mapunta Palawan sa ARMM or Mindanao. 100% sure ako dyan.
    i think, even in mindanao, they (the noisy guys with the guns) are still the minority.
    the majority just want to live in peace..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    Dalawang paraan lang ang pwedeng gawin para ma solve ang insurgency problem sa Mindanao.

    1. Crush them.
    2. Give Mindanao and Palawan to them.

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    Dalawang paraan lang ang pwedeng gawin para ma solve ang insurgency problem sa Mindanao.

    1. Crush them.
    2. Give Mindanao and Palawan to them.
    it is like choosing between the devil and the deep blue sea, especially we have a group who now wanted nothing more than a substate.

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    with regards to the muslim insurgency, siguro nga pagbigyan ang gusto nila pero for a trial period...once na magkagulo uli, bawiin lahat ng kung ano mang powers ang ibinigay. tama rin yung sabi ni duterte re:federalism. pero wag isusuko sa kanila ang military and police duties.

    i doubt dyan sa sinasabi ni Iqbal na nadecommision na yung mga armas nila by "that time". ganon ganon lang ba isusuko ng isang muslim na rebelde ang kanyang baril na magmula bata e yan na ang laruan.

    mas nakakatakot yung political power na ibibigay under bbl e. kahit sabihin din man kasi ng milf na wala nang koneksyon sa terrorist orgs e madali lang naman nilang mareactivate ito (sa tingin ko) kung hindi na naman mapagbigyan ang gusto nila e.

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    with regards to the muslim insurgency, siguro nga pagbigyan ang gusto nila pero for a trial period...once na magkagulo uli, bawiin lahat ng kung ano mang powers ang ibinigay. tama rin yung sabi ni duterte re:federalism. pero wag isusuko sa kanila ang military and police duties.

    i doubt dyan sa sinasabi ni Iqbal na nadecommision na yung mga armas nila by "that time". ganon ganon lang ba isusuko ng isang muslim na rebelde ang kanyang baril na magmula bata e yan na ang laruan.

    mas nakakatakot yung political power na ibibigay under bbl e. kahit sabihin din man kasi ng milf na wala nang koneksyon sa terrorist orgs e madali lang naman nilang mareactivate ito (sa tingin ko) kung hindi na naman mapagbigyan ang gusto nila e.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suvfanatic View Post
    How do these rebel groups finance their operation? I'm sure they get donations from other organizations around the world, aside from doing illegal activitiies locally. Sa sri lanka I think they undertook an all out offensive against the tamil tigers and cut off their funding with the help of the international community. They ended the insurgency. To think the Tamil tigers are more numerous, better armed and organized than these rebel groups. Ambivalent lang din ako sa total war dahil sa human cost e.
    but tamil tigers was plainly a vicious terrorist organization that invented the belt bombs and used women and children in their attacks. no foreign donor can condone that in the long run. it gradually lost international support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
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    education.
    roads.
    civilization.
    good old honesty.
    treat them better than how the american injuns were treated.

    the pilipinos were not so happy with the spaniards' 300 years, nor the japanese's 4 years.
    but why did many filipinos find the americans' 40 years "gratifying"? heck, we were willing to die for them during the wars...
    but are we not giving them those you enumerated to them now? are we not giving them autonomy under the armm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i think, even in mindanao, they (the noisy guys with the guns) are still the minority.
    the majority just want to live in peace..
    tama. sabi din ng mga kaklase ko last time na nagtuturo sa mga schools sa mindanao.

    pabiro ko nga sinabi nun: Magulo na naman ang mindanao sir!
    sabi nya: Cotabato lang iyan sir! sa isang barangay lang iyan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miked View Post
    siguro para ibigay ito (sabah) sa kanila at hindi ang mindanao. tsaka syempre dahil na rin sa natural resources nito. nakita lang siguro ng karamihan that time kung ano lang nasa ibabaw. hindi yung nasa kalaliman nito.
    no, sabah was claimed by the sultan of sulu. remember jamalul kiram? remember the standoff in sabah a couple of years back?

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