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    #411
    what i admire with these "fly-by-night religions" is the success in swaying a lot guys to join their flock. it take a lot of words and effort to persuade a gullible person to do that.

    btt: sa ganitong sitwasyon dapat isinasantabi muna ang religion. common sense at compassion na lang dapat ang pairalin.

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    #412
    Sa dami nilang pera, no wonder maganda ang engineering ng kanilang mga structures and hindi tinitipid ang materials.

    Tapos siyempre, pag hindi natibag ng calamity, they will claim na talagang pinag pala sila kasi sa kanila ang Diyos and makikita na sila lang ang maliligtas.

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    Ang tyaga nyo din talaga maghanap ng clip basta lang may pagsambit ng pagpunta sa inc kapilya. Eh ang kaso nga taga inc lang pinapasok. Eh hindi naman conclusive yung interview ng isang tao na yun na inakay nga lahat ng nasalanta. 11 pamilya nga lang po ang kinupkop ng inc kapilya. Eh ilang pamilya ba ang bumubuo ng isang baranggay? Nanang kupu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radz15 View Post
    Tutal nasa uspang religion na tong topic. May tanong lang ako sa mga born again.. Bakit ang mga churches ng born again ay hindi united?. Sa place namin bawat kanto may ibat ibang fellowship group na iba ibang name. Nagulat ako may high end pang fellowship group like Victory.

    Di ba parang mas ok kung maging united sila like INC, Catholic, ADD etc. Ano kaya reason bat ayaw nilang mag merge bilang 1 organization na lang. Iba iba din kaya interpretation nila sa bible?.. just my 2 cents..

    Btw im a Catholic




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    about sa mga born again naman, parang pansin ko sa mga yan namamahay mahay lang sila or maliit na parang chapel.
    marami namang mababait dyan, kaya lang hindi ko lang ma take yun ibang pastor dyan, sa probinsya namin merong pastor
    na nanggahasa ayun kulong, at yung isa kong pinsan naman na napakasinungaling at sinasagot sagot si mama palagi
    at laging nagawa ng kwento ayun pastora na ngayon ng born again, how sad :D biruin mo yun napakasinungaling pero pastora na ngayon.

    about naman sa INC isa sa nakikita ko kaya dumadami sila dahil parang mga fraternity yan eh, tutulungan ka nila makahanap ng trabaho,
    para makakuha sila ng 10% sayo :D


    proud to be a catholic :D piso piso lang

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    #415
    Matutuwa BIR nito. Parang withholding tax on income payments! 10% pa - mukhang royalties at professional fees ang tax base. Pag ganyan sir, pagsabihan nyo si mekaniko na humingi ng 2307 at resibo at para naman magamit yung input vat benefits.


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    Tithing sa Christian ay honesty system naman. Hindi na nila aalamin kung magkano kita mo.

    Anyway, naalala ko kwento ng mekaniko namin. May sinervisan siya na repair. 5K daw singil niya lahat lahat. Tapos nung magbabayad nma 4,500 daw binigay. Kasi daw sabi ng cliente niya na INC yung 10% daw kasi required. Natawa na lang yung mekaniko namin, sabi niya kung tatawad naman daw bbigay niya rin naman, at d naman daw siya INC bakit daw kelangan bawasan ng 10% ung bayad sa kanya. Kamot ulo daw siya nun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    bakit nga ba hindi ka makasagot ng diretso? may tinatago kang di namin dapat malaman?
    eto yung tanong ni boybi

    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Kung hindi man 10%, aaminim mo ba na required kayong magbigay ng tithes?



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    Ang tanong nya kung hindi 10% tapos sasabuhin niyang required ang tithes - eh yung tithes eh 10% nga eh

    parang tanong ng isang hindi nagiisip

    Wala pong tithes sa INC dahil pag sinabing tithes sapilitan na yan, may certain portion, may fix amount.

    Ulitin ko lang po walang tithes sa INC kahit sa alimang doktrina na sinusunod namin. Simple batayan lang po 2 Cor 9:7 labas sa sinasaad dyan hindi po yan pinatutupad.

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    Matanong ko lang pagkat ikaw ay nandito na rin lang. Totoo ba na ang mga Manalo ay hindi sa New Era University nag aaral o nag aral?


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    eto yung tanong ni boybi



    Ang tanong nya kung hindi 10% tapos sasabuhin niyang required ang tithes - eh yung tithes eh 10% nga eh

    parang tanong ng isang hindi nagiisip

    Wala pong tithes sa INC dahil pag sinabing tithes sapilitan na yan, may certain portion, may fix amount.

    Ulitin ko lang po walang tithes sa INC kahit sa alimang doktrina na sinusunod namin. Simple batayan lang po 2 Cor 9:7 labas sa sinasaad dyan hindi po yan pinatutupad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Kung hindi man 10%, aaminim mo ba na required kayong magbigay ng tithes?



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    Quote Originally Posted by radz15 View Post
    Tutal nasa uspang religion na tong topic. May tanong lang ako sa mga born again.. Bakit ang mga churches ng born again ay hindi united?. Sa place namin bawat kanto may ibat ibang fellowship group na iba ibang name. Nagulat ako may high end pang fellowship group like Victory.

    Di ba parang mas ok kung maging united sila like INC, Catholic, ADD etc. Ano kaya reason bat ayaw nilang mag merge bilang 1 organization na lang. Iba iba din kaya interpretation nila sa bible?.. just my 2 cents..

    Btw im a Catholic




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    Yung ibang tao kasi ang pinagbabasahan sa pagpasok sa religion ay pansarling pakinabang at relasyon nila sa ibang tao.

    Di ba dapat ang basehan natin ay yung pinaka-basic - SINO BA ANG DIYOS NA KINIKILALA NG RELIGION NA AANIBAN MO?

    Daming so called Christians denominations pero sino ba ang kinikilala nila Diyos? yung bang DIYOS ng biblia o diyos na pinatupad ng Emperor ng Roma noong 325 AD?

    FACT:

    1.Read the Bible from cover to cover, you will not read the preaching of 3 person God, you will not read that Christ is God, you will not read that the Holy Spirit is God.

    2.READ the BIBLE and you'll found out that only the Father is God as stated by the Most Trustworthy Witness of All - Christ Jesus. the Father is the God of the Apostles, the Father is the GOD of Moses, the Father is the GOD of Abraham.the Father is the God of David, the Father is the God of the early Christians.

    3. Christ is not the Father, the Holy Spirit is not the Father either.

    4. Valentinus the [Gnostic] heresiarch first invented in the book entitled by him On the Three Natures. For he was the first to invent three hypostases and three persons of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and he is discovered to have filched this from Hermes, Plato and Aristotle. (Source: AHB Logan: Marcellus of Ancyra (Pseudo-Anthimus), On the Holy Church: Text, Translation and Commentary. Verses 8-9. Journal of Theological Studies, NS, Volume 51, Pt. 1, April 2000, p.95 ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Kung hindi man 10%, aaminim mo ba na required kayong magbigay ng tithes?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord View Post
    Matanong ko lang pagkat ikaw ay nandito na rin lang. Totoo ba na ang mga Manalo ay hindi sa New Era University nag aaral o nag aral?
    Most of them sa New Era, others sa UP and other university.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mile2 View Post
    Most of them sa New Era, others sa UP and other university.
    Salamat sa confirmation. Narinig ko kasi yung isa na naging atenista.

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