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    #231
    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    May 5 raw "bagong witnesses" ang PAO. One of them says that Hubert was in country when the Viscondes were massacred.

    Naglaro pa raw nga sila ng basketball.......
    eto lang ha during that time, ang buong DLSU knows na andun noon si Webb at pumapasok. kaya malabo ang Amerika alibi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyeatworld View Post
    eto lang ha during that time, ang buong DLSU knows na andun noon si Webb at pumapasok. kaya malabo ang Amerika alibi.
    Too bad no one from DLSU had the balls to present themselves or any of their records to back-up that speculative claim. Ngayon na acquit si Webb, labasan na naman mga kuwento kutsero...

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    #233
    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyeatworld View Post
    eto lang ha during that time, ang buong DLSU knows na andun noon si Webb at pumapasok. kaya malabo ang Amerika alibi.
    uy bago na namang kwento yan ah..sino may sabi o imbento na naman yan? kasama ka ba sa 5 bagong witnesses?

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    #234
    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyeatworld View Post
    eto lang ha during that time, ang buong DLSU knows na andun noon si Webb at pumapasok. kaya malabo ang Amerika alibi.
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Too bad no one from DLSU had the balls to present themselves or any of their records to back-up that speculative claim. Ngayon na acquit si Webb, labasan na naman mga kuwento kutsero...
    Quote Originally Posted by ydreph962 View Post
    uy bago na namang kwento yan ah..sino may sabi o imbento na naman yan? kasama ka ba sa 5 bagong witnesses?
    si Hubert ba or si Jason ang sinasabi niyo? what I know is impossible yun tsismis na ang real perpetrator ay si Jason, since during that time high profile siya sa DLSU visible since one of the star player siya at di pwedeng umalis na lang agad at bumalik or something.

    ewan ko lang kung kasabay niya nag aral si Hubert sa DLSU kasi mukhang malayo naman ang age gap nila.

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    #235
    i dont think vizconde case will be reopen again, i feel sorry for mr lauro vizconde, he tried his best, but i think the money must had been stronger...

    if its not the webb's then who is it? such a lame from philippines to work on a case for 15years w/o making a better conclusion...

    the rapist of maggie dele riva were sentenced to death penalty, well good thing, expect more crimes, for they will think that they wont die and be pardoned anyway, and who know if they are able to bring home the loot like gma, he will be untouchable...

    money does play the biggest factor in our justice system, non only justice but to our society...

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    #236
    if DLSU people have seen Hubert... then 'they' whoever 'they' are should went out 15 years ago.

    i believe that 15 years ago... DLSU also has the ID badge system if you enter the premises it will be logged in the system as well. (kung ayaw nila mag testify diba? its an evidence na nasa pinas siya)

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    #237
    Interesting to see where this conspiracy case will go...

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/12...arms-vs-alfaro

    Webb et al lawyers up in arms vs Alfaro
    By Niko Baua, ABS-CBN News
    Posted at 12/19/2010 11:42 AM | Updated as of 12/19/2010 2:27 PM

    MANILA, Philippines - The lawyers of the acquitted in the Vizconde massacre case called for a press conference Saturday afternoon.

    Initially, the media was informed that it was just a reunion of sorts for lawyers Rene Saguisag, Vitaliano Aguirre, Jose Flaminiano, Ricardo Valmonte and others.

    Later, the lawyers announced they will soon be charging Jessica Alfaro with false testimony.

    They are the lawyers of the main suspects in the 1991 murder case, who were acquitted by the Supreme Court on Tuesday over the “inherent inconsistencies” in the testimony of witness Alfaro.

    They will also be filing administrative cases against members of the National Bureau of Investigation, and public and private prosecutors for allegedly attempting to fabricate evidence against Hubert Webb and the others.

    They are basing their complaint against a confidential report received by Flaminiano several years ago, which was written by Col. Armando Gatmaitan. The latter was then the intelligence chief of the criminal investigation services of the Philippine National Police who did an independent investigation of the massacre case.

    The lawyers supposedly confronted Gatmaitan over the letter.

    He confirmed he wrote the letter back in 1995 after the Vizcondes asked him to do a separate investigation.

    He claimed his nephew, Mar Gatmaitan, was the surrogate father of the Vizconde children.

    It was through Mar that he met the Vizconde patriarch, Lauro.

    In his report, Gatmaitan said there was an incident where Alfaro was brought to the crime scene for a “familiarization tour” before she gave a sworn statement, helping her fabricate her testimony.

    He also claimed certain prosecutors and NBI agents coached the witnesses to support the case.

    Since the Vizconde case has been judged with finality, this would be the best time to file a false testimony case against Alfaro, Saguisag said.

    The lawyers have not revealed the names of the possible respondents, noting only they are still studying the case further.

    Gatmaitan, for his part, said he does not care if people might think his statement is mere hearsay. He said he just wants to tell the truth.

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    #238
    huli ka balbon! madami talagang mga issues na hindi pinansin ang RTC.... ngayon ilalabas na nila ulit.. lalabas na ang baho nila. tsk!

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    #239
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Too bad no one from DLSU had the balls to present themselves or any of their records to back-up that speculative claim. Ngayon na acquit si Webb, labasan na naman mga kuwento kutsero...
    hindi naman kwentong kutsero yan eh. bakit sa tingin mo malakas si Webb sa Amerika. he's an American who became a popular actor then became a senator. kung tuusin asset sya eh

    America don't leave anyone behind. kita mo nga yun nan-rape recently na sundalo, eh diba't biglang nasa America na ngaun. even Ivler is still alive to this date. kung tuusin dapat salvage na yan sa dami ng krimen na ginawa nya

    now Hubert may have been seen with his bro during that time kasi nga sobrang lakas ng DLSU noon araw sa UAAP, marami nakakita sa kanya thereby
    the senator's claims na nasa Amerika si Hubert is just fabrication

    both sides are equally guilty pagdating sa fabrication ng evidence.

    now even if webb is here and tinago nya yun, that doesn't automatically that he and his friends committed the murders. i think it's just a father's instinct/love that he would exhaust all means at his disposal to save his son. yun lang yun.

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    #240
    Quote Originally Posted by jimnyeatworld View Post
    hindi naman kwentong kutsero yan eh. bakit sa tingin mo malakas si Webb sa Amerika. he's an American who became a popular actor then became a senator. kung tuusin asset sya eh

    America don't leave anyone behind. kita mo nga yun nan-rape recently na sundalo, eh diba't biglang nasa America na ngaun. even Ivler is still alive to this date. kung tuusin dapat salvage na yan sa dami ng krimen na ginawa nya

    now Hubert may have been seen with his bro during that time kasi nga sobrang lakas ng DLSU noon araw sa UAAP, marami nakakita sa kanya thereby
    the senator's claims na nasa Amerika si Hubert is just fabrication

    both sides are equally guilty pagdating sa fabrication ng evidence.

    now even if webb is here and tinago nya yun, that doesn't automatically that he and his friends committed the murders. i think it's just a father's instinct/love that he would exhaust all means at his disposal to save his son. yun lang yun.

    I wonder how you reached this conclusion.

    At no point was there any declaration from the courts that the pieces of object evidence, documentary or otherwise, introduced by the accused or the prosecution was fabricated. Certainly, the RTC under Judge Tolentino alluded to documents being easily forged or faked but none of the lawyers, especially from the prosecution, were able to prove that the documentary evidences were a forgery.

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