2022 Presidential Elections

[Little Missy]

Sharing here a post by Joy Sanchez, Farmer/Birdwatcher/Ph Native Tree Enthusiast...

"Yesterday, I had a meeting with a couple of rice farmers for the first time. They were operating a small-time rice milling station and, because I was in the area, I dropped by to introduce myself and they offered me coffee.

Our casual “kwentuhan” became “political” when the couple started talking about Bong Bong Marcos and my dad and I just listened intently to understand their logic.

I was very surprised at how they arrived at their reasoning. It had absolutely nothing to do with what we are concerned about: historical revisionism, corruption, injustices, etc. They were on a totally different narrative and it went like this:

Ferdinand Marcos found Yamashita gold (his unexplained wealth, therefore, was not stolen). Because he was a great leader, he tried to hide the wealth that was meant for Filipinos so the next politicians cannot get a hold of them. Even Americans got interested with the gold, so the Marcoses made sure to put it away in Swiss accounts until the right time comes when they can give back the money to the people. And now is the time, when his son, Bongbong Marcos wins, the Marcoses will give the money back to the Filipinos. They are the true philanthropists. They don’t need to steal because they are already rich. We should vote for them in case this story is true, they will give the money back to us.

They even went into detail how Ilocos is such a rich province because of the Marcoses. They said, in Youtube the farmers there were more advanced than the rest of the country. (Obviously they haven’t been there.)

Wow. I did not know what to say or how to begin the rebuttal. But, thankfully, my dad was with me.

My dad mentioned his age first: 77 years old. And he said to them, (who are in their 50s), “I was still in college in Cebu when Martial Law started. I had classmates from Thailand and Taiwan studying in our schools, because we had better education then. When I started working in the manufacturing industry, we would laugh at the products from other Southeast Asian countries because they were inferior to ours. But things started falling apart because of Ferdinand Marcos.”

My dad went on with detailed information about major industries under Marcos and his cronies who plundered the Philippine economy. He even mentioned the massive debt Marcos got us into, the many people who lost their jobs at that time, and how the Philippines fell behind its neighbors. In a strong statement, he said to the farmers, “sinasabi ko sa inyo ang sarili kong karanasan. Kung tingin ninyo ay Golden Era ang Marcos regime, nagkakamali kayo.”

My dad said a lot so I didn’t add more. I could only encourage them to go “outside youtube.” If they can go to the internet to get facts from newspaper websites, local and international, they will discover that there are so many fake news on youtube and facebook. I also mentioned that the Yamashita Gold is an old story the Marcoses use to mask their ill-gotten wealth.

Then, one of them asked, “May mga kaso po ang mga Marcoses na dismiss. Papa'no ninyo masasabing nagnakaw sila eh napawalang bisa nga?”

My dad said, “Maraming kaso at hindi lahat naipanalo, dahil paminsan, nawala ang orihinal na ebidensya. Siyempre, hindi tatanggapin ng korte kung kulang. Pero marami na rin ang naipanalong kaso laban sa kanila. May mga na-claim na rin sa kanilang ill-gotten wealth. Pitong (7) kaso ng graft ang naisampa kay Imelda Marcos. Hindi na lang siya ikinulong dahil siya ay matanda na. Pero, siyempre, ang binibida lang ng mga Marcos sa social media ay 'yung mga kaso na nadismiss.”

Then, the they asked, “Pero bakit nung si Cory na ang umupo sa pagkapresidente, may nangyari ba? Guminhawa ba ang Pilipinas?”

My dad replied, “Si Cory ang susi para maibalik ang demokrasya. Pero para guminhawa tayo, kulang si Cory at si Ramos kahit pareho silang maraming nagawang mabuti. Ganun katindi ang pagkakalubog ng ekonomiya natin dahil kay Marcos.”

Then, they asked us, “Kayo po, sino'ng iboboto ninyo?”

We, my dad and I, both said, “Kahit sinong manalo, huwag lang si Marcos!”

Then, we went through each presidential candidate and analyzed objectively their pros and cons. From Pacquiao, Moreno, Lacson and Robredo. In the end, we said, “Para sa amin, si VP Leni Robredo talaga 'yung pinaka okay. Malinis, walang bahid ng kurapsyon, matino, at may kakayahang mamuno.”

One of them asked, “Eh ano pong tingin ninyo kay Duterte?”

My dad replied, “Para sa akin, 'pag magnanakaw ka na mamamatay-tao ka pa, 'yun na ang pinakamasamang klaseng tao.”

Because we were both talking about rice, I brought up the Rice Tarrification Law of the Duterte administration and how it was affecting both our businesses. We all experienced palay’s price dropped from 22 pesos to 8 pesos na lang during the Duterte administration. From that conversation, I felt a little victory that we both agreed the current administration is really “palpak.”

To be very frank, I am not sure they like Leni yet but, at least, they were open to listen to us. I plan to come back with printed information about each candidate and online references if they want to research more.

Before ending the conversation, I asked them, “May Vice President na po ba kayong napili?”

They said, “Wala pa po. Sino kaya ang okay?”

And, at that opportune moment, I said, “Suggest ko po sana si Kiko Pangilinan. Maganda ang mga programa niya para sa ating mga magsasaka. Nagsasaka rin po kasi yun.”

They said, they might vote for Kiko na lang.

I thank God that we had a peaceful conversation despite the differences of opinions. But, at the same time, I wanted to share this to let everyone know that BBM’s team is very successful in penetrating the social media of class D & E which make up most of our population. There is so much brainwashing using fake news at that level that we need to do something about it.

If you’re seeing mostly pink on your newsfeed, I am telling you now, you need to get out and talk to people. We are more needed offline, on the ground. But before you do, arm yourself with good information and a good attitude."



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Sobrang totoo nito, eto din ang rebuttals na mababasa mo sa marcos supporters sa comments section.

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[dr. d]

Sobrang totoo nito, eto din ang rebuttals na mababasa mo sa marcos supporters sa comments section.

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in the first place,
is the so-called yamashita treasure even real?
what do the historians say?
the 'mericans are nipping at his heels,
and he still has the time to bury treasure?
sa dami ng sundalong nakaka-alam kung saan linibing, anyone would expect that this treasure will remain buried for long, after the war?
heh heh.

[glenn_duke]

Well, not just logistics. Shell's ex-honcho Ed Chua had this to say....

"Fyi, while the sale of Chevron and subsequently Shell shares in Malampaya to Udenna are private transactions, the key question is why PNOC didn't exercise its option to match. First in the Chevron sale where either Shell or PNOC had the right and option to match. Cusi's argument that it is risky for govt is not correct. It is a producing field. If banks were prepared to lend money to Udenna who has no experience in exploration and production and has very little capital, I'm sure banks would be more than happy to lend PNOC who has more experience and capital! Why are banks prepared to lend? Because the banks are secured with the assignment of the proceeds from the sale of Malampaya gas. This is a producing asset not on an exploratory stage. Therefore, No risk to the bank. For, UDENNA no money out and no cost. As they say, laway lang ang puhunan. If Udenna is given license extension, that would be a fantastic bonus, Pharmally equivalent but in USDollars! Cusi's explanation to Karen Davila about no change in company personality as it was a share sale was so out of this world [emoji43][emoji43][emoji43]. The question on energy security is, if banks would lend money to Udenna if they want to do exploration. I doubt it and this is where the country's energy security becomes a problem. Udenna may tap a Chinese SOC to provide funding and there goes both our energy security and overall country security 🤬🤬🤬. I.am assuming that Shell lost interest because govt didn't do anything to enforce the arbitral ruling from Singapore ICC and refused to act on the licence extension.

DOE's statements re Financial soundness are totally BS if not stupid. Cusi's claim that DOE reviewed the financial soundness and capability of Chevron Malampaya, but not Udenna because it is Chevron Malampaya which will remain as operator???? First of all, the operator is Shell not Chevron. Chevron was a shareholder. After both Chevron and Shell have sold their shares, they cease to be involved as it is the new owner who will operate the asset. The employees who are running the asset are transferred to the new owner. But I am aware that quite a number have left or will be leaving including the GM who resigned last month. Shell did not sign an operating agreement with Udenna. If I sold my restaurant to you will I still run it? I can transfer my staff to you but you now manage them and if they don't want to work for you, they can leave. You have to hire replacements. This deal is really terrible for the country. I don't know how these people can live with their conscience. Perhaps they don't have any."


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Malampaya gas field may be depleted during next year's election period, solon warns – Manila Bulletin

[Yatta]

[dr. d]

Malampaya gas field may be depleted during next year's election period, solon warns – Manila Bulletin

"... using the current technology, siguro."

[glenn_duke]

in the first place,
is the so-called yamashita treasure even real?
what do the historians say?
the 'mericans are nipping at his heels,
and he still has the time to bury treasure?
sa dami ng sundalong nakaka-alam kung saan linibing, anyone would expect that this treasure will remain buried for long, after the war?
heh heh.

Even Cory believed it existed.

[shadow]

https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/11/02/...manila-caravan

So mga supporters no sara without H sana huwag na bumoto sa election mag mukmok na lang sa bahay nila.


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[dr. d]

Even Cory believed it existed.

i do not believe in that treasure..
do you believe it exist (ed) ??

[glenn_duke]

i do not believe in that treasure..
do you believe it exist (ed) ??

Yup I believe it existed, in every war there are spoils. In fact most war were motivated by gold.

[uls]

Well, not just logistics. Shell's ex-honcho Ed Chua had this to say....

"Fyi, while the sale of Chevron and subsequently Shell shares in Malampaya to Udenna are private transactions, the key question is why PNOC didn't exercise its option to match. First in the Chevron sale where either Shell or PNOC had the right and option to match. Cusi's argument that it is risky for govt is not correct. It is a producing field. If banks were prepared to lend money to Udenna who has no experience in exploration and production and has very little capital, I'm sure banks would be more than happy to lend PNOC who has more experience and capital! Why are banks prepared to lend? Because the banks are secured with the assignment of the proceeds from the sale of Malampaya gas. This is a producing asset not on an exploratory stage. Therefore, No risk to the bank. For, UDENNA no money out and no cost. As they say, laway lang ang puhunan. If Udenna is given license extension, that would be a fantastic bonus, Pharmally equivalent but in USDollars! Cusi's explanation to Karen Davila about no change in company personality as it was a share sale was so out of this world [emoji43][emoji43][emoji43]. The question on energy security is, if banks would lend money to Udenna if they want to do exploration. I doubt it and this is where the country's energy security becomes a problem. Udenna may tap a Chinese SOC to provide funding and there goes both our energy security and overall country security 🤬🤬🤬. I.am assuming that Shell lost interest because govt didn't do anything to enforce the arbitral ruling from Singapore ICC and refused to act on the licence extension.

DOE's statements re Financial soundness are totally BS if not stupid. Cusi's claim that DOE reviewed the financial soundness and capability of Chevron Malampaya, but not Udenna because it is Chevron Malampaya which will remain as operator???? First of all, the operator is Shell not Chevron. Chevron was a shareholder. After both Chevron and Shell have sold their shares, they cease to be involved as it is the new owner who will operate the asset. The employees who are running the asset are transferred to the new owner. But I am aware that quite a number have left or will be leaving including the GM who resigned last month. Shell did not sign an operating agreement with Udenna. If I sold my restaurant to you will I still run it? I can transfer my staff to you but you now manage them and if they don't want to work for you, they can leave. You have to hire replacements. This deal is really terrible for the country. I don't know how these people can live with their conscience. Perhaps they don't have any."


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Sir i'm very aware of that

nagtataka nga ako nobody in the forum brought it up

puro pharmally pharmally

i posted this on oct 27

it's about malampaya but nobody bothered to read it

dennic uy is trending on twitter

curious why

here's why

https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/10/26/...ry-complainant

well that just proves my point

friends of whoever is in power get the big deals

if this admin was another admin, then friends of that admin would get the big deals

that's the way of things