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    It seems the pink caravan is snowballing that the trolls are working overtime on soc med. Will it still gain more grounds in the next 6 months?

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    Pinatikim si bato, tapos ngayon kapit tuko na.


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    Pinatikim si bato, tapos ngayon kapit tuko na.


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    For once I agree with you. With all the millions he earned as chief PNP (including pabaon), he will move heaven and earth to keep digong in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    For once I agree with you. With all the millions he earned as chief PNP (including pabaon), he will move heaven and earth to keep digong in power.
    Halos lahat naman ng pro-admin, yun ang gusto. Hindi ninyo ba nahahalata, yung partido ni dugong wala sa limelight ngayon? Hindi naman si Bato titimbang sa eleksyon. Pag wala na si dugong, mawawala na lahat yan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    For once I agree with you. With all the millions he earned as chief PNP (including pabaon), he will move heaven and earth to keep digong in power.
    Money is king.


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    Sharing here a post by Joy Sanchez, Farmer/Birdwatcher/Ph Native Tree Enthusiast...

    "Yesterday, I had a meeting with a couple of rice farmers for the first time. They were operating a small-time rice milling station and, because I was in the area, I dropped by to introduce myself and they offered me coffee.

    Our casual “kwentuhan” became “political” when the couple started talking about Bong Bong Marcos and my dad and I just listened intently to understand their logic.

    I was very surprised at how they arrived at their reasoning. It had absolutely nothing to do with what we are concerned about: historical revisionism, corruption, injustices, etc. They were on a totally different narrative and it went like this:

    Ferdinand Marcos found Yamashita gold (his unexplained wealth, therefore, was not stolen). Because he was a great leader, he tried to hide the wealth that was meant for Filipinos so the next politicians cannot get a hold of them. Even Americans got interested with the gold, so the Marcoses made sure to put it away in Swiss accounts until the right time comes when they can give back the money to the people. And now is the time, when his son, Bongbong Marcos wins, the Marcoses will give the money back to the Filipinos. They are the true philanthropists. They don’t need to steal because they are already rich. We should vote for them in case this story is true, they will give the money back to us.

    They even went into detail how Ilocos is such a rich province because of the Marcoses. They said, in Youtube the farmers there were more advanced than the rest of the country. (Obviously they haven’t been there.)

    Wow. I did not know what to say or how to begin the rebuttal. But, thankfully, my dad was with me.

    My dad mentioned his age first: 77 years old. And he said to them, (who are in their 50s), “I was still in college in Cebu when Martial Law started. I had classmates from Thailand and Taiwan studying in our schools, because we had better education then. When I started working in the manufacturing industry, we would laugh at the products from other Southeast Asian countries because they were inferior to ours. But things started falling apart because of Ferdinand Marcos.”

    My dad went on with detailed information about major industries under Marcos and his cronies who plundered the Philippine economy. He even mentioned the massive debt Marcos got us into, the many people who lost their jobs at that time, and how the Philippines fell behind its neighbors. In a strong statement, he said to the farmers, “sinasabi ko sa inyo ang sarili kong karanasan. Kung tingin ninyo ay Golden Era ang Marcos regime, nagkakamali kayo.”

    My dad said a lot so I didn’t add more. I could only encourage them to go “outside youtube.” If they can go to the internet to get facts from newspaper websites, local and international, they will discover that there are so many fake news on youtube and facebook. I also mentioned that the Yamashita Gold is an old story the Marcoses use to mask their ill-gotten wealth.

    Then, one of them asked, “May mga kaso po ang mga Marcoses na dismiss. Papa'no ninyo masasabing nagnakaw sila eh napawalang bisa nga?”

    My dad said, “Maraming kaso at hindi lahat naipanalo, dahil paminsan, nawala ang orihinal na ebidensya. Siyempre, hindi tatanggapin ng korte kung kulang. Pero marami na rin ang naipanalong kaso laban sa kanila. May mga na-claim na rin sa kanilang ill-gotten wealth. Pitong (7) kaso ng graft ang naisampa kay Imelda Marcos. Hindi na lang siya ikinulong dahil siya ay matanda na. Pero, siyempre, ang binibida lang ng mga Marcos sa social media ay 'yung mga kaso na nadismiss.”

    Then, the they asked, “Pero bakit nung si Cory na ang umupo sa pagkapresidente, may nangyari ba? Guminhawa ba ang Pilipinas?”

    My dad replied, “Si Cory ang susi para maibalik ang demokrasya. Pero para guminhawa tayo, kulang si Cory at si Ramos kahit pareho silang maraming nagawang mabuti. Ganun katindi ang pagkakalubog ng ekonomiya natin dahil kay Marcos.”

    Then, they asked us, “Kayo po, sino'ng iboboto ninyo?”

    We, my dad and I, both said, “Kahit sinong manalo, huwag lang si Marcos!”

    Then, we went through each presidential candidate and analyzed objectively their pros and cons. From Pacquiao, Moreno, Lacson and Robredo. In the end, we said, “Para sa amin, si VP Leni Robredo talaga 'yung pinaka okay. Malinis, walang bahid ng kurapsyon, matino, at may kakayahang mamuno.”

    One of them asked, “Eh ano pong tingin ninyo kay Duterte?”

    My dad replied, “Para sa akin, 'pag magnanakaw ka na mamamatay-tao ka pa, 'yun na ang pinakamasamang klaseng tao.”

    Because we were both talking about rice, I brought up the Rice Tarrification Law of the Duterte administration and how it was affecting both our businesses. We all experienced palay’s price dropped from 22 pesos to 8 pesos na lang during the Duterte administration. From that conversation, I felt a little victory that we both agreed the current administration is really “palpak.”

    To be very frank, I am not sure they like Leni yet but, at least, they were open to listen to us. I plan to come back with printed information about each candidate and online references if they want to research more.

    Before ending the conversation, I asked them, “May Vice President na po ba kayong napili?”

    They said, “Wala pa po. Sino kaya ang okay?”

    And, at that opportune moment, I said, “Suggest ko po sana si Kiko Pangilinan. Maganda ang mga programa niya para sa ating mga magsasaka. Nagsasaka rin po kasi yun.”

    They said, they might vote for Kiko na lang.

    I thank God that we had a peaceful conversation despite the differences of opinions. But, at the same time, I wanted to share this to let everyone know that BBM’s team is very successful in penetrating the social media of class D & E which make up most of our population. There is so much brainwashing using fake news at that level that we need to do something about it.

    If you’re seeing mostly pink on your newsfeed, I am telling you now, you need to get out and talk to people. We are more needed offline, on the ground. But before you do, arm yourself with good information and a good attitude."



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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Sharing here a post by Joy Sanchez, Farmer/Birdwatcher/Ph Native Tree Enthusiast...



    Ferdinand Marcos found Yamashita gold (his unexplained wealth, therefore, was not stolen). Because he was a great leader, he tried to hide the wealth that was meant for Filipinos so the next politicians cannot get a hold of them. Even Americans got interested with the gold, so the Marcoses made sure to put it away in Swiss accounts until the right time comes when they can give back the money to the people. And now is the time, when his son, Bongbong Marcos wins, the Marcoses will give the money back to the Filipinos. They are the true philanthropists. They don’t need to steal because they are already rich. We should vote for them in case this story is true, they will give the money back to us.




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    Meron ako kalaro sa airsoft, he died a few months ago from a congenital condition, but anyway he was so into this "benevolent" Marcos belief. He was born in the late 90s. He truly believed up to the end in the above. Right up to the last he posted how Cory was so evil that she bombed Filipino soldiers (RAM-SFP) during their coups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Meron ako kalaro sa airsoft, he died a few months ago from a congenital condition, but anyway he was so into this "benevolent" Marcos belief. He was born in the late 90s. He truly believed up to the end in the above. Right up to the last he posted how Cory was so evil that she bombed Filipino soldiers (RAM-SFP) during their coups.
    Born late 90s??? He died in 20s? So young.

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    Quote Originally Posted by travajante View Post
    Sharing here a post by Joy Sanchez, Farmer/Birdwatcher/Ph Native Tree Enthusiast...

    "Yesterday, I had a meeting with a couple of rice farmers for the first time. They were operating a small-time rice milling station and, because I was in the area, I dropped by to introduce myself and they offered me coffee.

    Our casual “kwentuhan” became “political” when the couple started talking about Bong Bong Marcos and my dad and I just listened intently to understand their logic.

    I was very surprised at how they arrived at their reasoning. It had absolutely nothing to do with what we are concerned about: historical revisionism, corruption, injustices, etc. They were on a totally different narrative and it went like this:

    Ferdinand Marcos found Yamashita gold (his unexplained wealth, therefore, was not stolen). Because he was a great leader, he tried to hide the wealth that was meant for Filipinos so the next politicians cannot get a hold of them. Even Americans got interested with the gold, so the Marcoses made sure to put it away in Swiss accounts until the right time comes when they can give back the money to the people. And now is the time, when his son, Bongbong Marcos wins, the Marcoses will give the money back to the Filipinos. They are the true philanthropists. They don’t need to steal because they are already rich. We should vote for them in case this story is true, they will give the money back to us.

    They even went into detail how Ilocos is such a rich province because of the Marcoses. They said, in Youtube the farmers there were more advanced than the rest of the country. (Obviously they haven’t been there.)

    Wow. I did not know what to say or how to begin the rebuttal. But, thankfully, my dad was with me.

    My dad mentioned his age first: 77 years old. And he said to them, (who are in their 50s), “I was still in college in Cebu when Martial Law started. I had classmates from Thailand and Taiwan studying in our schools, because we had better education then. When I started working in the manufacturing industry, we would laugh at the products from other Southeast Asian countries because they were inferior to ours. But things started falling apart because of Ferdinand Marcos.”

    My dad went on with detailed information about major industries under Marcos and his cronies who plundered the Philippine economy. He even mentioned the massive debt Marcos got us into, the many people who lost their jobs at that time, and how the Philippines fell behind its neighbors. In a strong statement, he said to the farmers, “sinasabi ko sa inyo ang sarili kong karanasan. Kung tingin ninyo ay Golden Era ang Marcos regime, nagkakamali kayo.”

    My dad said a lot so I didn’t add more. I could only encourage them to go “outside youtube.” If they can go to the internet to get facts from newspaper websites, local and international, they will discover that there are so many fake news on youtube and facebook. I also mentioned that the Yamashita Gold is an old story the Marcoses use to mask their ill-gotten wealth.

    Then, one of them asked, “May mga kaso po ang mga Marcoses na dismiss. Papa'no ninyo masasabing nagnakaw sila eh napawalang bisa nga?”

    My dad said, “Maraming kaso at hindi lahat naipanalo, dahil paminsan, nawala ang orihinal na ebidensya. Siyempre, hindi tatanggapin ng korte kung kulang. Pero marami na rin ang naipanalong kaso laban sa kanila. May mga na-claim na rin sa kanilang ill-gotten wealth. Pitong (7) kaso ng graft ang naisampa kay Imelda Marcos. Hindi na lang siya ikinulong dahil siya ay matanda na. Pero, siyempre, ang binibida lang ng mga Marcos sa social media ay 'yung mga kaso na nadismiss.”

    Then, the they asked, “Pero bakit nung si Cory na ang umupo sa pagkapresidente, may nangyari ba? Guminhawa ba ang Pilipinas?”

    My dad replied, “Si Cory ang susi para maibalik ang demokrasya. Pero para guminhawa tayo, kulang si Cory at si Ramos kahit pareho silang maraming nagawang mabuti. Ganun katindi ang pagkakalubog ng ekonomiya natin dahil kay Marcos.”

    Then, they asked us, “Kayo po, sino'ng iboboto ninyo?”

    We, my dad and I, both said, “Kahit sinong manalo, huwag lang si Marcos!”

    Then, we went through each presidential candidate and analyzed objectively their pros and cons. From Pacquiao, Moreno, Lacson and Robredo. In the end, we said, “Para sa amin, si VP Leni Robredo talaga 'yung pinaka okay. Malinis, walang bahid ng kurapsyon, matino, at may kakayahang mamuno.”

    One of them asked, “Eh ano pong tingin ninyo kay Duterte?”

    My dad replied, “Para sa akin, 'pag magnanakaw ka na mamamatay-tao ka pa, 'yun na ang pinakamasamang klaseng tao.”

    Because we were both talking about rice, I brought up the Rice Tarrification Law of the Duterte administration and how it was affecting both our businesses. We all experienced palay’s price dropped from 22 pesos to 8 pesos na lang during the Duterte administration. From that conversation, I felt a little victory that we both agreed the current administration is really “palpak.”

    To be very frank, I am not sure they like Leni yet but, at least, they were open to listen to us. I plan to come back with printed information about each candidate and online references if they want to research more.

    Before ending the conversation, I asked them, “May Vice President na po ba kayong napili?”

    They said, “Wala pa po. Sino kaya ang okay?”

    And, at that opportune moment, I said, “Suggest ko po sana si Kiko Pangilinan. Maganda ang mga programa niya para sa ating mga magsasaka. Nagsasaka rin po kasi yun.”

    They said, they might vote for Kiko na lang.

    I thank God that we had a peaceful conversation despite the differences of opinions. But, at the same time, I wanted to share this to let everyone know that BBM’s team is very successful in penetrating the social media of class D & E which make up most of our population. There is so much brainwashing using fake news at that level that we need to do something about it.

    If you’re seeing mostly pink on your newsfeed, I am telling you now, you need to get out and talk to people. We are more needed offline, on the ground. But before you do, arm yourself with good information and a good attitude."



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    Sobrang totoo nito, eto din ang rebuttals na mababasa mo sa marcos supporters sa comments section.

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