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    #1891
    Quote Originally Posted by ale828 View Post
    Oo nga kaya nga sabi ko read my post again. I didn't say it was doable or it could be done or if its morally right. like i said again read my post on it. But like i said again in the subsequent post. if it would done do you not think it would reduce the incidence of vote buying? yes or No?

    oo nga. Agree to disagree.

    Only the corrupt gov't officials want the corruption to stay.
    Everyone else wants a corrupt free gov't but the reality is corruption will still be present whoever sits in Iron throne/Malacanang in the next 6 years. We are trying to show you is the reality of what is out there.
    Wag mo ba naman pabotohin 90% of the voting population eh natural wala ng pagbebentahan ng boto. Ang tanong may sense ba yun? Don't explain anymore, wala siyang sense.

    Say there will always be corruption if yan gusto mo. If tanggap mo corrupt government officials mo, go. But I disagree in your statement of putting the burden sa voters.

    https://twitter.com/kingsalamat/stat...465746443?s=19

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    Marcos Jr. was charged in 1992 before the Quezon City Regional Trial Court for violation of Sections 45 and 50 of the Tax Code for failure to file his income tax returns for 1982 to 1985 as well as for failure to pay the proper income taxes for those years. Section 255 of the Tax Code provides that anyone convicted of failure to file tax returns or failure to pay the proper taxes shall be “punished by a fine of not less than ten thousand pesos (P10,000.00) and suffer imprisonment of not less than one (1) year but not more than ten (10) years.” The law mandates a penalty of both fine and imprisonment.

    In 1995, the trial court convicted Marcos Jr. and imposed on him the following penalty, among others: (1) “To serve imprisonment of three (3) years and pay a fine of P30,000.00 in Criminal Cases Nos. Q-91-24391 for failure to file income tax return for the year 1985”; and (2) “To serve imprisonment of three (3) years and pay a fine of P30,000.00 in Criminal Case No. Q-91-24390 for failure to pay income tax for the year 1985.”

    Marcos Jr. appealed to the Court of Appeals (CA), which in 1997 affirmed the decision of the trial court with modification. The CA rendered a decision “FINDING (Marcos Jr.) guilty beyond reasonable doubt of violation of Section 45 of the NIRC for failure to file income tax returns for the taxable years 1982 to 1985 in Criminal Cases Nos. Q-91-24391, Q-93-29212, Q-93-29213, Q-93-29217.” The CA ordered Marcos Jr. to pay the corresponding deficiency taxes, penalties, and fine. Inexplicably, despite finding Marcos Jr. guilty of failure to file his income tax returns from 1982 to 1985, the CA imposed on Marcos Jr. only a fine without any imprisonment, despite the clear mandatory requirement of the Tax Code that the penalty shall be both a fine and imprisonment.

    Marcos Jr. filed a notice of appeal to the Supreme Court but shortly thereafter withdrew his appeal, probably on the realization that the Supreme Court would most likely correct the error of the CA and impose the corresponding penalty of imprisonment. The Supreme Court granted Marcos Jr.’s motion to withdraw on Aug. 8, 2001 since the Solicitor General did not file his own appeal. Consequently, the decision of the CA convicting Marcos Jr. became final and executory.


    Marcos Jr. cannot now be disqualified on the ground that he was sentenced to imprisonment for more than 18 months because there is no such sentence by the CA. However, a case can be made out that the repeated failure to file income tax returns from 1982 to 1985 amounts to moral turpitude. While the failure to file a tax return for one year may not evince an intent to evade payment of income taxes, the repeated failure to file income tax returns for several years can evince an intent to evade such payment, amounting to moral turpitude. The Supreme Court did opine in a related case that Marcos Jr.’s failure to file his income tax returns did not amount to moral turpitude. This was, however, merely an obiter since the Court in the same case admitted that the conviction of Marcos Jr. was then still under appeal.
    Can Marcos Jr. be disqualified? | Inquirer Opinion

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    #1893
    Quote Originally Posted by Little Missy View Post
    Wag mo ba naman pabotohin 90% of the voting population eh natural wala ng pagbebentahan ng boto. Ang tanong may sense ba yun? Don't explain anymore, wala siyang sense.

    Say there will always be corruption if yan gusto mo. If tanggap mo corrupt government officials mo, go. But I disagree in your statement of putting the burden sa voters.

    https://twitter.com/kingsalamat/stat...465746443?s=19

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    Yes mahirap talaga e explain.
    Agree to disagree on the matter.

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    #1894
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    naka focus mga tao dito sa pharmally-type, friend-of-president type of corruption

    ang tinutukoy ko corruption is the type present all throughout gov't bureaucracy

    like ung example ko fire inspector who insists you refill your fire extinguishers sa kakilala niya

    like the customs guy who will let your container van out for an under-the-table fee that's much lower than the actual tax you're supposed to pay

    like the building permit guys who will let you build a tall building in the middle of a residential area (hello kagalingan walang zoning zoning sa pinas)

    there are countless examples

    siguro naman gets niyo sinasabi ko

    call me a cynic but i think that type of corruption will not go away kahit anong palit mo ng presidente
    Uls hindi ka nag-iisa dito.. I got your point.. Hindi ka nag-iisa.. Tama lahat ng sinasabi mo.. idagdag mo pa mga Ghost Project at mga Tao sa gobyerno-Idagdag mo na din mga Security Guard at mga Janitor-- Mga natututo na din manghingi sa mga Negosyante..Bakit? Kasi nakikita din nila sa mga nasa taas nila..

    *Dreamur, Little Missy and Others with same belief

    Saludo ako dahil may Faith pa kayo.. Sana lang talaga totoong mangyari mga sinasabi nyo.. Isa ako sa matutuwa kapag nangyari mga sinasabi nyo.. But as of the moment--Same sentiments ako kay uls..

    *Topic

    Still Undecided who to vote(President).. Please lang huwag lang kayo mag-away dito and make it a Healthy Discussion para makatulong sa mga kagaya kong Undecided pa..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoyJo View Post
    Uls hindi ka nag-iisa dito.. I got your point.. Hindi ka nag-iisa.. Tama lahat ng sinasabi mo.. idagdag mo pa mga Ghost Project at mga Tao sa gobyerno-Idagdag mo na din mga Security Guard at mga Janitor-- Mga natututo na din manghingi sa mga Negosyante..Bakit? Kasi nakikita din nila sa mga nasa taas nila..

    *Dreamur, Little Missy and Others with same belief

    Saludo ako dahil may Faith pa kayo.. Sana lang talaga totoong mangyari mga sinasabi nyo.. Isa ako sa matutuwa kapag nangyari mga sinasabi nyo.. But as of the moment--Same sentiments ako kay uls..

    *Topic

    Still Undecided who to vote(President).. Please lang huwag lang kayo mag-away dito and make it a Healthy Discussion para makatulong sa mga kagaya kong Undecided pa..
    Had those 2decades of Marcos rule been like Sg's LKY, corruption can't be as bad the disease we see today.
    Confused why we'd even entertain putting back someone who was party to the root of what everyone is complaining about here.
    2decades of bad foundation that the following 3decades can't undo just shows how deep & grown the ills have gone. It definitely must not justify amnesty & amnesia.
    We're now presented w/ choices of not just lesser evils & pure evil, but there's an obvious GOOD standing out....Not giving her the doubt benefit for the reason all the others have failed just shows how cynical, numb or gullible we've become as a populace.
    Not discounting anyone's views nor sentiments here, but between hope & hopelessness, I'd choose the former.....it might be the strategy left to somehow keep afloat this sinking nation.
    We gave the anti-establishment bisdaque 6years of more to undo...we're in a bigger mess, much deeper crap. Poor next president...let the good one try...
    Let Leni Lead!!!

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    #1896
    If Robredo has any political common sense left in her, she should retire from the political scene, and just bask in the idea that she was lucky enough to become Vice President in 2019, notwithstanding her lackluster three-year stint as, by her own admission, an incompetent legislator.

    Robredo finally admits she has no track record – Daily Tribune



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    Quote Originally Posted by QUEZ View Post
    If Robredo has any political common sense left in her, she should retire from the political scene, and just bask in the idea that she was lucky enough to become Vice President in 2019, notwithstanding her lackluster three-year stint as, by her own admission, an incompetent legislator.

    Robredo finally admits she has no track record – Daily Tribune



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    Leni Robredo - Wikipedia.

    Robredo ran in Camarines Sur's 3rd congressional district during the Philippine general elections of 2013. On May 16, 2013, she was proclaimed winner, beating Nelly Favis-Villafuerte (of Nationalist People's Coalition/United Nationalist Alliance), wife of former Congressman Luis Villafuerte[31] and member of the politically powerful Villafuerte dynasty.[32]


    Robredo delivering a speech during a LP campaign rally in Quezon City, February 17, 2016
    During her term in congress, Robredo was the vice chairman of the House committees on good governance, public accountability, and revision of laws, and a member of 11 other house panels.[33] She was known for being a strong advocate of the Freedom of Information Act,[34] and a strong supporter of the Bangsamoro Basic Law.[35][36]

    Participatory governance and transparency were major thrusts of Robredo's legislative agenda. The first law Robredo authored in congress was the Full Disclosure Policy Bill (HB 19), which would have mandated all government agencies and their sub-units and projects to disclose their budget and financial transactions in a conspicuous manner "without any requests from the public."[37] Concerned that the marginalized sector should not be denied access to government frontline services and public meetings based on their attire,[38] she sponsored the Open Door Policy Act (House Bill No. 6286),[39] which prohibits government offices and agencies from implementing strict dress codes.[39]

    Robredo also authored the People Empowerment Bill (HB 4911[40]), which sought to allow more participation from Filipinos in decision and policy-making,[41] and the Participatory Budget Process Bill (HB 3905), which sought to increase participation in budget-related decisions in government projects by locals.[40][42][43] She also wrote the Comprehensive Anti-Discrimination Bill (HB 3432) to prohibit discrimination on the basis of ethnicity, race, religion or belief, ***, gender, ***ual orientation, gender identity and expressions, language, disability, HIV status, etc.[44]

    To promote transparency in the taxation process, she sponsored the house version (House Bill 05831) of what would eventually become Republic Act RA10708, the Tax Incentives Management and Transparency Act of 2009 (TIMTA).[45][46][47]

    Other major legislation co-authored by Robredo includes the Anti-Dynasty Bill[48][49] and the Healthy Beverage Options Act (House Bill 4021).[50]


    Legislative portfolio
    As a member of the 16th Congress, Robredo was one of the principal authors of the house version of "The Tax Incentives Management and Transparency Act (TIMTA)" (Republic Act RA10708, House Bill 05831), which was enacted on December 9, 2015.[51] She also co-authored the house version[52] of the following laws: the “National Children’s Month Act,” Republic Act RA10661 (HB01641) enacted on May 29, 2015, declaring the celebration of the national children's month on November of every year;[53] the "Charter of the Quezon City Development Authority," Republic Act RA10646 (HB03899), lapsed into law on November 8, 2014; the "Open High School System Act," Republic Act RA10665 (HB04085) enacted on July 9, 2015, establishing and appropriating funds for the open high school system; Republic Act RA10638 (HB04089), extending the corporate life of the Philippine National Railways for another 50 years, enacted on June 16, 2014; Republic Act RA10707 (HB04147), amending the "Probation Law of 1976" enacted on November 26, 2015, rationalizing and strengthening the probation system; the "Graphic Health Warnings Law," Republic Act RA10643 (HB04590), enacted on November 15, 2014, prescribing the printing of graphic health warnings on tobacco products; Republic Act RA10655 (HB05280), decriminalizing premature remarriages, enacted on March 13, 2015; and the "Sangguniang Kabataan Reform Act.of 2015," Republic Act RA10742 (HB06043), enacted on January 15, 2016.[54][55][56]

    In addition, Robredo was one of many co-authors of the National Budgets for the years 2014 (RA10633, HB02630, enacted on December 20, 2013), 2015 (RA10651, HB04968, enacted on December 23, 2014), and 2016 (RA10717, HB06132, enacted on December 22, 2015).[52]

    Robredo was also a key supporter of: HB 4911: People Empowerment Bill to create a partnership between local governments and civil society through the establishment of a people's council in every local government unit. This act also prescribes the powers and functions of said council;[44] HB 3432: Comprehensive Anti-Discrimination to prohibit discrimination on the basis of ethnicity, race, religion or belief, ***, gender, ***ual orientation, gender identity and expressions, language, disability, HIV status, and other status, and provide penalties for these;[44] HB 4021: Healthy Beverage Options to regulate the availability of beverages to children in schools and for other purposes;[57] HB 19: Full Disclosure Policy to require the full disclosure of all information on fiscal management from all national government departments, bureaus, agencies, and other instrumentalities, including government-owned or controlled corporations and their subsidiaries and local governments. This act will also provide penalties for violations of said requirements;[58] HB 3905: Participatory Budget Process to institutionalize citizens’ participation in the budget process and for other processes;[42] and HB 3237: Freedom of Information to strengthen the right of citizens to information held by the government.[58]

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    #1898
    Quote Originally Posted by QUEZ View Post
    If Robredo has any political common sense left in her, she should retire from the political scene, and just bask in the idea that she was lucky enough to become Vice President in 2019, notwithstanding her lackluster three-year stint as, by her own admission, an incompetent legislator.

    Robredo finally admits she has no track record – Daily Tribune



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    Obviously this was a slant!

    Duterte has zero laws passed while he was a member of HOR and he even admitted that skipped the sessions to watch movies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QUEZ View Post
    If Robredo has any political common sense left in her, she should retire from the political scene, and just bask in the idea that she was lucky enough to become Vice President in 2019, notwithstanding her lackluster three-year stint as, by her own admission, an incompetent legislator.

    Robredo finally admits she has no track record – Daily Tribune



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    it doesn't matter if she "has no track record"

    what matters is her popularity

    THEY made leni run coz she's the only candidate who is popular enough to drive the davao group out of power

    that's the goal (and of course to return power to imperial manila)

    it's like the US democrats chose an old man who already has dementia to run for president coz he's the only one popular enough to beat Trump so the democrats can return to power

    it's not about the candidate

    it's about the people who will benefit when the candidate wins
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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    it doesn't matter if she "has no track record"

    what matters is her popularity

    THEY made leni run coz she's the only candidate who is popular enough to drive the davao group out of power

    that's the goal (and of course to return power to imperial manila)

    it's like the US democrats chose an old man who already has dementia to run for president coz he's the only one popular enough to beat Trump so the democrats can return to power

    it's not about the candidate

    it's about the people who will benefit when the candidate wins
    Yup just like in 2016. Who cares what happens in between 2016 and 2022.

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