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    Tesla

    Tesla has officially landed in PH, range starts under P2.1-M | TopGear PH

    Tesla Model 3 rear–wheel drive – P2,109,000
    Tesla Model 3 Long Range – P2,489,000
    Tesla Model 3 Performance – P3,099,000
    Tesla Model Y rear–wheel drive – P2,369,000
    Tesla Model Y Long Range – P2,689,000
    Tesla Model Y Performance – P3,299,000

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    Model Y will eat up Toyota RAV4 and Honda CR-V sales ... and take away market share from BYD ... excited for the solar tiles and power wall ...

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    Model 3 at 2.1m is amazing value tbh

    Seal is 2.55m, Civic HEV is 2m, Camry Hybrid is 2.4m, IS300h is 2.9m, 318i is 3.6m....

    All those are cars above are tiny market though

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    Quote Originally Posted by viper888 View Post
    Model 3 at 2.1m is amazing value tbh

    Seal is 2.55m, Civic HEV is 2m, Camry Hybrid is 2.4m, IS300h is 2.9m, 318i is 3.6m....

    All those are cars above are tiny market though
    Hopefully the Japanese will finally take notice and price their products accordingly. Less excuses now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viper888 View Post
    Model 3 at 2.1m is amazing value tbh

    Seal is 2.55m, Civic HEV is 2m, Camry Hybrid is 2.4m, IS300h is 2.9m, 318i is 3.6m....

    All those are cars above are tiny market though
    Those JAP will have to rethink their moves next fiscal year once Tesla capture that tiny market.
    Customers on this car segment will surely consider TESLA due to pricing.
    Question lang, hindi ba made in China TESLA units here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carxynogen View Post
    Those JAP will have to rethink their moves next fiscal year once Tesla capture that tiny market.
    Customers on this car segment will surely consider TESLA due to pricing.
    Question lang, hindi ba made in China TESLA units here?
    Almost certainly we're getting units from Shanghai.

    But if you look it up it seems that the quality of Teslas coming from Shanghai is much higher than those from California. Corroborated by many owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    Almost certainly we're getting units from Shanghai.

    But if you look it up it seems that the quality of Teslas coming from Shanghai is much higher than those from California. Corroborated by many owners.
    Then this is a threat to Jap companies selling overpriced hybrids.
    This is good for consumers.

    Iba pa rin quality ng Tesla compare to BYD.
    Their cooling system for battery is impressive.
    Not familiar with how good cooling system of BYD though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Hopefully the Japanese will finally take notice and price their products accordingly. Less excuses now.
    I've been saying nga that after the government implemented zero taxes on HEVs and BEVs, these companies have been pocketing the money lang and only giving minimal discounts to consumers.

    Compare the local price of Tesla to the MSRP in the States and the markup is like 100k - 200k only. Same thing with the Chinese stuff, same thing with the Ioniq 5N:

    Model 3 Performance - P3.1M. US MSRP is 50k without the federal tax credit, or P2.95M. Difference is P150k only (5%)

    Ioniq 5N = P4.25M, US MSRP 69k or P4.05M. Difference is 200k only (5%)


    But the traditional brands ang layo pa din ng prices sa USD or RMB MSRP.

    Camry Hybrid = P2.45M. US MSRP (SE model) = $32k or 1.87M. Difference around 580k (31%)

    Lexus RZ450e = P5.228M. US MSRP (Luxury model) = $65,580 or P3.83M. Difference P1.398M (36%) -- And this is giving Lexus PH the benefit of the doubt that what they're selling is the higher-end Luxury model. If it's the Premium then the US MSRP is under $60k.


    Now Tesla (and the Chinese) are going to eat their lunch.
    Last edited by Dr.Kamiya; November 9th, 2024 at 01:27 AM.

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    Tesla has a lower cost marketing structure ... you can only order online ... no sales agents ... just showroom ... price is fixed ... everyone gets the same price ... no dealer shenanigan ... Hyundai here has no market power so they need to price accordingly ...
    Last edited by Walter; November 9th, 2024 at 07:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Model Y will eat up Toyota RAV4 and Honda CR-V sales ... and take away market share from BYD ... excited for the solar tiles and power wall ...
    That’s what most car people in the US thought. Didn’t happen. The Toyota/Honda reliability mantra is unshakable. People are still crazy blindly willing to buy these cars above MSRP, it’s ridiculous.

    Elon’s politics didn’t help either.

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