What do you think about 89 Pajero 4x4 ?

**Boy2** · January 11th, 2003 01:06 PM

sir OTEP,

akala po kasi namin "pick a part" yung junk shop na napuntahan namin... hindi pala.. :mrgreen: gusto niya kasi magpaalam muna bago manguha ng manguha... tapos yun nga... gusto niya bibilin mo ng buo... ayaw niya ng tanggal tanggal. sinisingil niya kami $300 for the auxillary fan, clutch fan, and mudguards pati rear bumper corner and sun visors... e alam mo naman mga pilipino... babaratin ng babaratin! kaya binigay na lang ng $200.

yung emblem nga ng mitsubishi tinanggal namin. gusto niya bayaran daw yun ng $25! ang mahal kaya iniwan na lang namin, tapos kinabukasan binalikan ni offroadmom (kunwari di kami mag kakilala!) :mrgreen: ayun! binigay niya ng $10 na lang kay ermat. :mrgreen:

**OTEP** · January 11th, 2003 01:08 PM

Boy2,

Malakas pala ang charm ni offroadmom. hehehe.

Grabeng junk shop naman iyan, taga.

**Boy2** · January 11th, 2003 01:12 PM

sir OTEP,
alam mo naman mga koreans... puro business nasa utak... pero ok lang, were happy with the parts. lalo na yung bumper end. na-gamit na nga nami yung isa dahil nabangga kami dati. ayun pinabayaran namin sa insurance ng double the price ang isang bumper end. :mrgreen::mrgreen:

**splerdu** · January 11th, 2003 03:04 PM

IFS? thanks for correction...

**Boy2** · January 11th, 2003 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by splerdu

IFS? thanks for correction...

sir splerdu,

what do you mean? if your asking what IFS means... i think its Independent Front Suspension.

correct me if im wrong peeps..

**otomatic** · January 11th, 2003 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by Ikabod

Otep,

Actually, namaneho ko na yung SWB na Gen I Pajero na may 2.6L gas engine. Okey naman ang performance for this body. Ang concern ko lang talaga ay totoo ba yung mga sinasabi ng iba na prone daw sa cracking yung mga cylinder heads ng makinang ito? At saka marami pa bang available parts nito such as the cylinder heads at carbs? Nagtanong ako before sa mga surplus dealers at ang sabi ay mahirap daw makahanap ng mga cylinder heads na walang crack kaya naisip ko na kung sakaling masira yun e mahirap mapalitan.

To otomatic, offroadmom and Boy2,

Puwede kayang ikuwento ninyo sa akin ang mga firsthand experiences ninyo sa mga rides ninyo particularly sa engine nito, since na-mention ni Otep na puro mga Gen I Pajero SWB na may 2.6L gas engine ang mga sasakyan ninyo. Thanks in advance.

Ikabod,
Isa lang po ang genI SWB pajero namin, 2.6L gas. So far, i have replaced the clutch and the engines timing chain and its components. Kaya tahimik na ang tunog ng makina, dati kasi parang diesel engine na ang tunog dahil sa worn out timing chain and components niya.

Engine parts are still available in banawe, pedro gil and pasay, basta matiyaga ka lang para japan replacements o OEM parts mabili mo. Interchangeable naman ang ibang parts ng 4G52 or 4G53 or any Astron engine na lumabas dito sa pinas.

Sa carbs me nabili nga akong repair kit ke bestcolt, pero spare ko na lang dahil nakuha ng carb cleaner and gas additive yung problema.

Sa clutch system at crankcase gasket pang 4D56 din. Kaya you have the options for original parts. Leaf spring bushings, idler arm assbly same as the local genI pajero.

Sa states ang dami pa nitong parts sa mitsu dealer, dahil doon din lumabas ang 2.6L engine in montero's and dodge raiders.
Lately, i just bought my OEM timing chain tensioner there thru my sister in california.

Regular tune-up lang at change oil, like spark plugs, air filter, pcv valve. konting carb cleaner lang ok na. Mine i replaced na the distributor cap & rotor w/OEM, and new high tension wires dahil original pa yung nakakabit na me kahinaan na. It even had a contact point before, now i replaced it with a breakerless and a high performance ignition coil.

Medyo talo ka nga lang sa fuel mileage

6-7kms/li. combined city and highway driving. For me its not bad for an old 2.6, since its not everyday driven

Pero it performs well naman sa pinatubo last Nov.30, 2002.

I even saw a SWB montero w/ 2.6L in pinatubo, think its from PORC guy.

About its cylinder head, according to the people from www.outdoorwire.com its the heads with the jet valve on it thats prone to cracks due to the difference in metal types, ata :roll: . Luckily my cylinder head does'nt have one, ito ata yung cylinder heads ng early dodge caravans na hinahanap ng mga outdoorwire peeps sa junkyards sa states. I think aluminum cylinder heads can be welded and remanufactured just in case.

Worse come to worst, eh di magiging diesel 4D56 A/T pa ang ride ko. hehehe. Araayy ko po! :D

**Ikabod** · January 11th, 2003 11:45 PM

otomatic,

Sorry at ngayon lang ako naka-reply. Salamat sa lahat ng feedback mo dun sa 2.6L gas engine ng Pajero ninyo. Okey talaga i-drive yun kaya nga lang malakas sa gas. Yun lang talagang cracking ng cylinder head ang nakapigil sa akin dating bilihin yung Pajero na tinest drive ko. Okey na sana kasi nilagyan na ng fiberglass top at saka upuan sa likod (originally J-top kasi yun) at may mags na.

Ang last question ko lang ay paano malalaman kung yung 2.6L gas engine na nakakabit sa Pajero ay may cylinder head na may jet valve? Lahat ba ng Gen I na Pajero na may 2.6L engine ay may jet valve?

Kung sakali ay baka kumbinsihin ko uli yung kakilala ko na ibenta sa akin yung Pajero niya.

Btw, saang dismantler sa California kayo pumupunta para sa mga parts ninyo? Kasi sa may San Jose ako pumupunta na Pick and Pull, yun nga lang for the last few years ay puro para sa MB ko yung mga parts na hinahanap ko dun. Sarap lang dun e nakapag-uwi ako ng dalawang set ng US na MB bumpers dito at nabili ko lang ng wala pang $300 ang nagastos ko kasama pa yung mga kung anu-anong MB parts. Dun ay Mexicano ang mga namamahala kaya medyo madali-dali kausapin.

**otomatic** · January 12th, 2003 01:11 AM

Ikabod,

ako nga kanina lang naka reply sensiya ka na.

Malakas naman ang hatak dahil mas magaan sa 5dr. Kaya pa rin mag 125kph yung SWB ko kaya lang mabuway na dahil sa short wheelbase.

Ganyan din yung una kung tiningnan j-top na naka campershell na, naka bouncy seats pa pati passenger side. Sa tingin ko nga mas modelo ang engine nitong pajero gas 2.6 from subic. Ito yung yung bacth daw na galing ng greece kaya me emble siya at the back na greek characters. Ito rin ang gamit ng mga subic police.

Anyway mukang ito yung may mga jet valves, but im not sure. Kasi ang purpose ng jet valves is to improve the combustion of air/fuel mixture, thereby it lessens the toxic pollutants. And I saw this gas j-tops has egr valves too and bunch of vacuum hoses connected sa carbs not too mention the couple of electricals controlling the carbs. IMO, to sum it up this j-tops has emission controls system and the jet valves on the cylinder head is a part of it. My GenI has no emission system, even the carbs are a lot simplier, even the choke for cold starting is manually controlled via cable sa dash.

Para ka maka sure na wala itong jet valve ay open the valve cover kung payag ang vendor ng sasakyan. Pag 12 valves ang nakita mo ay positive yon sa jet valve. Ito yung smaller valve sa tabi ng intake valve.

Sa Rialto Ca. ako makakuha ng parts. I think its Dan's, di ko na inabot yung engine, ibang parts like the intake manifold/carb, radiator ay nasa passenger cabin na pero me tranny pa. Tamang tama at swb din kaya nakuha ko yung rear bumper corners/ends and etc.

Goodluck!! sana walang jet valve yung prospect SWB mo! Update mo na lang ako curious lang ako sa mga jet valves na yan. :wink:

**Macky** · January 12th, 2003 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by El Loco

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What do you think about 89 Pajero 4x4 for 210t..? This is being offered to my cousin..is this a good buy na considering maayos pa.. How's the fuel consumption of this car? Any other variants released in the year 89? What usually are the things to look up to/ And what about parts, mura ba? thanks

I almost bought a 91 Montero 4X4 LS. Macho ang dating!!! Clean and boxy. Bago sound system and no mechanical defects. Carpets lang kailangang palitan plus a small windshield crack which could be fixed w/o buying a new windshield. Di na lang ako sanay ng hindi on-the-fly ang 4WD systems kaya di ko kinuha. Hirap kasi sa yelo, kailangan mo pang huminto to engage it to 4WD (OTEP, correct me if I'm wrong on this one) e hindi na nga makahinto dahil dumudulas na sa yelo. I experience this during my test drive and can't really describe how frightening it is. Hinto lahat nung nasa kalsada, takot din sila, hehehe....... got a car instead and will use the CR-V for extreme weather conditions. Medyo vague den ang steering. Walang driver's road feel. Overall, don't expect much on handling since it is tall and boxy :roll: Since you can tell that the egine still runs good, have a professional check the transmission, mahirap na. A rebuilt transmission here costs about $2K (kaya plano ko na lang mag-business ng auto repair shop and get Pinoys as mechanics. Imagine, casa here are paid $75/hr on services they are doing. Di hamak mas magagaling ang mga mekanikong Pinoy di ba?). The one I looked at is on sale for $3,100 with the $100 as a leeway for bargaining. So that's P150K in Philippine Peso. Sa Pinas kasi kasama sa presyo yung paga-alagang ibinigay sa sasakyan kaya medyo mahal. Besides, KBB doesn't apply to our road and car conditions. Medyo mahal lang to insure because it's a 4X4.

Goodluck and keep us posted 8)