Toyota Fortuner new turbo vs. Montero V-GT

[kevin3000]

2.5 fortuner vs gls v montero sport naiiwan ako ni erpat gamit ko nun fortuner kahit drive 3 wala parin lakas pa sa diesel... Non vgt vs 3.0 pantay lang kami tried it sa nlex 10pm 180kph both takbo namin kaso after a while nagexit na ko sta rita

[clairenceh]

Sir non-vgt niyo ba 3.2 GLS SE?

[macstar1]

Either way, be it MS or Fort, VGT or VNT, non-VGT or Non-VNT, panalo ...

[jon777]

Both are not equipped with variable valve timing so makers has to choose kung low-speed&high-load performance OR high-speed&part-load performance.

Lets compare their valve timing:

4D56 DI-D
Intake Opens * 20deg BTDC
Intake Closes * 40deg ABDC
Exhaust Opens * 38deg BBDC
Exhaust Closes * 22deg ABDC

1KD-FTV (paki-correct na lang po at sabi-sabi lang to never seen the pdf technical info)
Intake Opens * 2deg BTDC
Intake Closes * 37deg ABDC
Exhaust Opens * 45deg BBDC
Exhaust Closes * 0deg ABDC

The 4D56 DI-D has an Overlap of 42.00 degrees and has an Intake Duration of 240.00 degrees. The Exhaust Duration is 240.00 degrees. Meaning kahit maliit ang lungs nya (2.5 liters lang) eh maluwag naman ang lagusan nya ng hangin kaya nakakasustain kahit sa high rpm (mabilisan na takbo).

The 1KD-FTV has an Overlap of 2.00 degrees and has in Intake Duration of 218.00 degrees. The Exhaust Duration is 225.00 degrees. Meaning malaki nga lungs nya (3.0 liters) pero ang duration ng valve events eh hindi kasing tagal ng 4d56 DI-D.

As an MD, i can interpret EKG, various chemical profiles of the different organs. As a stock trader, i can interpret finacial statements and brokerage reports.

BUT, reading the above data which involves degrees and speed/load performances, Pucha, di ko maintindihan even after reading it 4x.

Langya, I could never be an engineer.

Algebra nga binagsak ko pa sa college eh
Sa trigonometry naman, pasang awa lang ako

[Ry_Tower]

Sa twists and winding road iwan din Fort sa MS based on my experience. Pero baka sa nagmamaneho din. la ba nakasubok na palitan ng driver sa ganung situation? Sa amin kasi, southern part is rektahan kaya important top speed and acceleration for overtaking buses na ayaw tumabi kahit mabagal at yung mga pila ng shuttle vans.

North is more of twists and turns and uphill climbs. Plus some minor and medium offroading with crossings pa sa creeks.

[alvinladen]

mukhang di na nagkakalayo sa performance ang MS at Fort but still i will choose the MS because of:

-better fuel economy
-cruise control (very useful pag maluwag ang daan sa express way)
-sports mode (ginagamit ko pag gusto ko mabilis ang acceleration ko)
-paddle shifter (kahit di ko ginagamit its still a plus)
-narrower turning radius (more useful than i tought, pansin ko improvement from my previous suv. madalas kasi ako sa masisikip na lugar)

kung sa porma lamang ang Fort for me, mas macho sya tingnan

paki-correct na lang kung may ganitong features din ang Fort

[Retz]

mukhang di na nagkakalayo sa performance ang MS at Fort but still i will choose the MS because of:

-better fuel economy
-cruise control (very useful pag maluwag ang daan sa express way)
-sports mode (ginagamit ko pag gusto ko mabilis ang acceleration ko)
-paddle shifter (kahit di ko ginagamit its still a plus)
-narrower turning radius (more useful than i tought, pansin ko improvement from my previous suv. madalas kasi ako sa masisikip na lugar)

kung sa porma lamang ang Fort for me, mas macho sya tingnan

paki-correct na lang kung may ganitong features din ang Fort

un nga isang advantage ng Monty with those added features.

[jmtyper]

I haven't seen the Fort driven like this - [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBJ6MVvUd44&feature=fvwrel]Test drive Pajero Sport 2012 with H.Masuoka in Hanoi - Vietnam - YouTube[/ame]
Kaya din ba ng Fort ito?

[Retz]

What is the difference between VNT of Fort and VGT of Monty? Parang sa name lang pagkaka iba.

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Either way, be it MS or Fort, VGT or VNT, non-VGT or Non-VNT, panalo ...

For the Win ito. May sarili sila weakness and strengths kaya i tried both.