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    #3921
    Quote Originally Posted by maxpedition View Post
    Mitsubishi investigation only prove that there is no SUA on montero but they dont have any conclusion for what cause it[emoji31] Until this kind of accidents persist no wonder SUA issue will never stop[emoji37]

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    well, legally, that's all they want.
    "you say our product is defective? prove it."

    heh heh.

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    #3922
    Quote Originally Posted by LN106G View Post
    With regards to SUA, the SUA issue of toyota USA few years back has been solved after they sought independent evaluation from NASA who by technical standard revealed that there is nothing wrong with the computer box & engine management of the toyota car in question (camry). NASA, however, found the cause of the SUA and it was the improperly-sized floor mat that inadverdently traps the accelerator pedal during acceleration, hence, the unwanted SUA. Now, going back in the local scene, IIRC, Mitsubishi Ph sought the help of an independent 3rd party to evaluate the Montero SUA problem and, yes, they said there is nothing wrong with MS ECU & engine mangement system (just like Toyota USA). Is it possible then, that the pedal design of the brake & accelerator (they are of almost of the same height and near each other) of the montero sports is the real culprit?
    Even before the first SUA attributed accident someone in the mosterosports club already commented the not so normal placement and heights of the pedals. I recall also someone commented that is so to give the ms a sporty driving feel. Which makes the ms not so driver friendly especially to those who are use to drive manual tranny and to the old folks.

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    #3923
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Even before the first SUA attributed accident someone in the mosterosports club already commented the not so normal placement and heights of the pedals. I recall also someone commented that is so to give the ms a sporty driving feel. Which makes the ms not so driver friendly especially to those who are use to drive manual tranny and to the old folks.
    for sale MS caution expert driver only not suitable for newbie and seniors [emoji23]

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    #3924
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Which makes the ms not so driver friendly especially to those who are use to drive manual tranny and to the old folks.
    Not all old folk are not suited for ms. My father (76) is everyday driver of our ms 3rd gen and there is no problem at all. Even coming in and out of our long narrow garage. The key point here maybe using more advance or brand new car must be a responsible driver imo.[emoji53]

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    #3925
    Quote Originally Posted by sean-archer View Post
    Is it the elevation of the pedals or the horizontal distance that really matter?

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    It's the step height/elevation that matters.

    Stock cars usually have large difference in pedal height between brake and gas for safety. Di mo basta maslide paa mo on gas/brake, vice versa.

    On race cars, we tend to adjust it on how comfortable we are during racing, specifically heel and toe braking. Usually almost level or tiny difference na lang ang gas and brake is what I usually see. They do it on different ways, cheap is by adjusting the brake pedal or putting pedal covers like found on blade/concorde to adjust height and distance.

    Or if you have moolah, some racers put these:
    Height/distance/angle and pressure/feel adjustable.

    PE Pedal Box


    All cars brake pedal height can be adjusted naman, it's not as easy as adjusting your seat though, but you can DIY it or the dealer can do it for you at an extra charge.

    Sample:
    How to adjust your brake pedal for easier side step heel toe rev match downshifts 2017 Honda civic - YouTube


    Edit:

    For AT cars, obviously you cant heel and toe pero most discussion I heard is that they like the brake pedal and gas pedal almost level para di hirap ung paa/ankle. This is true if you only use your right foot to apply both gas and brake pedal.

    Para di raw pagod iaangat yung paa switching to brake pedal from gas pedal, especially in stop and go trapik, etc.. So yeah, pros and cons lang din. Safety vs convenience.

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    #3926
    grabe apektado talaga sales ng mitsu phils dahil sa SUA....

    and ang kalaban nila eh facebook page ng SUA group headed by raffy nieto and bernardino bernardo.....

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    #3927
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    grabe apektado talaga sales ng mitsu phils dahil sa SUA....

    and ang kalaban nila eh facebook page ng SUA group headed by raffy nieto and bernardino bernardo.....
    i haven't heard of any acquaintance who changed his mind and bought something else.
    in fact, one bought a monty. when i asked why he bought the so-called "SUA vehicle", he said, "marunong akong mag-maneho ng AT".
    the guy still drives it regularly, and he hasn't SUA-ed yet.
    heh heh.

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    #3928
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i haven't heard of any acquaintance who changed his mind and bought something else.
    in fact, one bought a monty. when i asked why he bought the so-called "SUA vehicle", he said, "marunong akong mag-maneho ng AT".
    the guy still drives it regularly, and he hasn't SUA-ed yet.
    heh heh.
    actually preference mo yan kung gusto mo ng monty buy it what ever issue meron pa yan [emoji122]

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    #3929
    A couple of my friends have Montero, wala naman nag SUA sa kanila.

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    #3930
    A couple of my friends have Montero, binenta nung malaman me sua 😁

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