Guns: A Necessity in Today's Society?

**nelany** · October 21st, 2015 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by Altis6453

That's a debate as old as time regarding caliber and stopping power. I tend to believe that even if you have a .22 cal. you can stop an attacker if you place your shots correctly. So...practice practice and more practice is required with your chosen gun and caliber.

Correct ka dyan sa shot placement, no disagreement. Comparison was made on the kinetic energy offered by the individual ammo only. It will still be up to the user kung saan siya sanay at praktisado.

**nelany** · October 21st, 2015 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by Altis6453

That's a debate as old as time regarding caliber and stopping power. I tend to believe that even if you have a .22 cal. you can stop an attacker if you place your shots correctly. So...practice practice and more practice is required with your chosen gun and caliber.

Correct ka dyan sa shot placement, no disagreement. Comparison was made on the kinetic energy offered by the individual ammo only. It will still be up to the user kung saan siya sanay at praktisado.

**b_9904** · October 21st, 2015 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by nelany

Correct ka dyan sa shot placement, no disagreement. Comparison was made on the kinetic energy offered by the individual ammo only. It will still be up to the user kung saan siya sanay at praktisado.

Guns kill by penetrating into the body.

So long as it penetrates deep enough the caliber will kill.

Kinetic energy is relevant only in rifle ammo.

**yebo** · October 21st, 2015 10:12 AM

for a home defense gun stopping power comes second. first consideration should be a gun that your wife or even eldest teenager daughter can use. what use is a .45 if your wife is afraid to touch it? a .22lr semi auto rifle with a 20 round box ammo will be better than a .45 acp whose recoil your most precious girls will not be able to handle.

**Bin Diesel** · October 21st, 2015 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by yebo

a .380 acp Bersa thunder plus with decocker so you don't make the mistake of dropping a hammer when uncocking a loaded gun. it's cheap, simple, reliable and accurate.

i shot a 1/2 inch 15 meter group on a bench rest using a .380 bersa thunder plus when my eyes were still good (no glasses yet). so if you do not mind "Made in Argentina" then this one is for you.

Actually wala pa talaga akong alam when it comes to guns. Yung mga standard na napapanood sa TV and mga caliber lang na 9mm, 0.45, at 0.38 lang alam ko e. Gusto ko din matuto syempre, asawa ko lang talaga ang medyo kinakabahan sa mga baril. Ang sinasabi ko na lang for protection lang naman and self defense kung sakali.

**nelany** · October 21st, 2015 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by b_9904

Guns kill by penetrating into the body.

So long as it penetrates deep enough the caliber will kill.

Kinetic energy is relevant only in rifle ammo.

Kinetic energy is applicable to all ammo by computation (mass & velocity).

**nelany** · October 21st, 2015 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by b_9904

Guns kill by penetrating into the body.

So long as it penetrates deep enough the caliber will kill.

Kinetic energy is relevant only in rifle ammo.

Kinetic energy is applicable to all ammo by computation (mass & velocity).

**nelany** · October 21st, 2015 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Bin Diesel

Actually wala pa talaga akong alam when it comes to guns. Yung mga standard na napapanood sa TV and mga caliber lang na 9mm, 0.45, at 0.38 lang alam ko e. Gusto ko din matuto syempre, asawa ko lang talaga ang medyo kinakabahan sa mga baril. Ang sinasabi ko na lang for protection lang naman and self defense kung sakali.

You have a pros and cons of owning a gun. Check first if you really need to own a gun.

**nelany** · October 21st, 2015 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Bin Diesel

Actually wala pa talaga akong alam when it comes to guns. Yung mga standard na napapanood sa TV and mga caliber lang na 9mm, 0.45, at 0.38 lang alam ko e. Gusto ko din matuto syempre, asawa ko lang talaga ang medyo kinakabahan sa mga baril. Ang sinasabi ko na lang for protection lang naman and self defense kung sakali.

You have a pros and cons of owning a gun. Check first if you really need to own a gun.

**anonemus** · October 21st, 2015 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Bin Diesel

Actually wala pa talaga akong alam when it comes to guns. Yung mga standard na napapanood sa TV and mga caliber lang na 9mm, 0.45, at 0.38 lang alam ko e. Gusto ko din matuto syempre, asawa ko lang talaga ang medyo kinakabahan sa mga baril. Ang sinasabi ko na lang for protection lang naman and self defense kung sakali.

Dapat yung baril that will not intimidate her also. What you can do is go to pistol ranges and shoot as many handguns as you can and see which is comfortable for you.

One concept you might want to know more about is the Use of Force continuum, combining non-lethal and lethal responses. At baka baril yung final defensive option mo. First option? Walk/run away from harm

Good kit to consider.