Guns: A Necessity in Today's Society?

[MR_BIG18]

May friend ako na police, advise niya dati to have an unregistered paltik gun in the house , once you shoot the BG in the house and killed him, plant the gun in his hand and shoot it sa door or wall etc to justify self defense that the BG shoot to kill you.

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i won't agree nor disagree with that...[emoji106]

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[sparc179]

May friend ako na police, advise niya dati to have an unregistered paltik gun in the house , once you shoot the BG in the house and killed him, plant the gun in his hand and shoot it sa door or wall etc to justify self defense that the BG shoot to kill you.

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It used to be that a knife would be enough to show that the homeowner was acting in self defense.

I always try to remember the prerequisites/ conditions needed to claim self-defense;

When Can A Claim Of Self-Defense Be Valid?

Mr. Big is right of course, always have your lawyer's number on speed dial.

[kagalingan]

tsikoteers,

wala kayo sa america na may karapatan ang akyat-bahay. Binabyahe nga minsan yan.

Pag nasa bahay nyo na at talagang magnanakaw ano gusto nyo gawin ?

[KingoftheNorth]

AFAIK, ang mga pulis dito marami t*nga. Graduate daw ng criminology but they don't have a clue what self-defense is.

Diba nga yung isang dating member ng Hagibis, pinasok ang bahay tapos nung napatay niya yung ladron eh siya pa ang kinasuhan? It's far from how it is in other countries where the police make a determination whether or not to initiate a case before the prosecutor.

[dr. d]

AFAIK, ang mga pulis dito marami t*nga. Graduate daw ng criminology but they don't have a clue what self-defense is.

Diba nga yung isang dating member ng Hagibis, pinasok ang bahay tapos nung napatay niya yung ladron eh siya pa ang kinasuhan? It's far from how it is in other countries where the police make a determination whether or not to initiate a case before the prosecutor.

i am not very familiar with the nuances of the law.
but i believe it has something to do with the shooting in self-defense against an armed breaker-in inside the confines of the home, and going out of the house, shooting at and running after the do-badder as he makes his escape..
while i see the logic of going after him, so's he won't come back to finish the job,
the law might not see it my way...

[KingoftheNorth]

i am not very familiar with the nuances of the law.
but i believe it has something to do with the shooting in self-defense against an armed breaker-in inside the confines of the home, and going out of the house, shooting at and running after the do-badder as he makes his escape..

Yes doc. Based on news reports, I think his case was dismissed because he had reasonable belief that the threat to his life hasn't ceased even if the perpetrator left his house.

[sean-archer]

If I may, there is a big difference in terms of recoil between the 2 calibers sir Sean. Although the 19 and 23 are both compacts so their sizes and dimensions are almost identical, the higher recoil of the more powerful Cal. 40 of the Glock 23 may not be to everyone's liking. Especially for a small sized handgun like the 23. If you cannot tame the recoil, follow up shots will be difficult.

Even with bigger models like the G22 vs the G17, you will feel the difference. Even more so with the G23.

Good luck, stay safe on the range sir.

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Inputs very much appreciated sir sparc

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[sparc179]

i am not very familiar with the nuances of the law.
but i believe it has something to do with the shooting in self-defense against an armed breaker-in inside the confines of the home, and going out of the house, shooting at and running after the do-badder as he makes his escape..

A homeowner definitely cannot claim self defense if he/she follows the suspect and shoots him while he is making his getaway.

The elements of self defense are no longer present.

The burden of proof always falls on the homeowner/defender.



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[sparc179]

Inputs very much appreciated sir sparc

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Most welcome sir Sean.

I believe there are ranges in Manila who have Glock 23 house guns which you can try and compare with.

Also, please consider that the bullet chambers of the OEM barrels on Glocks are not fully supported so a Cal. 40 has been notorious for KB incidents. There are numerous discussions about it online.

JMHO. Stay safe always.

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[sean-archer]

Basta eto lang ang rule ko

Get the Cal .40 if you plan to be a sharpshooter in the long term, coz the .40 is a very good practice weapon

The problem with 9mms is that there are so many entry level guns around in the 9mm ammo range, most of these guns are not really very handy on the grip or masyado mabigat ang bakal, therefore sacrificing accuracy in the range, unless you get the Glock 17s.

The best grip is the .45 gun, pero a .45 is a very deadly bullet in the body, so the logical thing is to get the competition .40. Mainit pa sa mga pulis ang mga naka .45, kasi assasin gun yan eh, Of course, ,40 mainit din sa kanila, mainit kasi pang practice din nila sa gun range lol kung makumpiskahan ka ng expired LTOPF or even PTC

Dami nga lang business ngaun nag recycle ng tinga ng 9mm, sa halagang P100 may 20-25 bullets ka na pang practice

Good points to ponder sir mini.

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