Generator sets

**badkuk** · December 26th, 2013 12:36 PM

Anyone heard of Yanmar generators? It seems to be the cheapest among the Japanese brands(Honda, Robin).

**glenn manikis** · December 26th, 2013 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Retz

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Sir manikis, pagka continuous ung genset mo more than 20k na ba un?

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Continuous as in walang patayan? for 20,000 hours?

or what you mean is on standby power or prime power?

pag standby power as in max load ang gamit mo.. good for limited use lang pwede yan... siguro max of 3 hours... then rest mo na for 24 hour period...

pero kung on prime power you can use it for weeks... walang patayan basta after 250hrs. dapat change oil mo na...

on 10% overload naman... you can use it only for a period of 1hr.... in excess of 1hr. chances are.. mag start na mag init yung engine nyan... pero meron mga gensets naka set ang controller nya na walang over load... pag nag overload ka... mag auto shutdown yun...

**Retz** · December 26th, 2013 02:53 PM

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What i mean sir manikis is ung continuos power. Diba tatlong klase yan standby, prime and continuous? kaya ko natanong kung same lang ba sa prime power that could last for 20k hours or much longer pa.

**glenn manikis** · December 26th, 2013 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by badkuk

Sir maganda po ba yung kipor? a dealer once told me this is the #2 genset brand in China, class "A" naman daw. Di kaya problema sa piyesa?

Tried looking for Honda, they don't seem to have any (locally) beyond 3kVA.

Also tried looking at Kubota...parang wala naman less than 10kVA :p

Re car motor as generator: with enough engineering knowledge and machine shop skills, pwede siguro, but considering even a lowly 40hp engine, that's around 29kVA right? Unless you have that kind of load, parang sayang lang sa fuel.

kipor? 2nd biggest?

the biggest generator company sa china is WEICHAI makers of DUETZ engine.. and engine for heavy equipments.

the next biggest is CUMMINS...

limited lang ang nalalaman ko pag dating sa maliit na gensets... ang Sabi sakin ang MATIBAY daw na below 10kva is... BOLIN AND YANMA. it comes from malaking manufacturing plant sa china... but not sure at iilan lang ang binenta namin na YANMA DITO.. pero so far not a single issue...

**glenn manikis** · December 26th, 2013 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Retz

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What i mean sir manikis is ung continuos power. Diba tatlong klase yan standby, prime and continuous? kaya ko natanong kung same lang ba sa prime power that could last for 20k hours or much longer pa.

yes sir same lang yan... ayan ang expected life ng gensets...

then possible na mag overhaul na... pero mura lang ang parts ng gensets basta ang engine is 4bt,6bta,or 6LTA engine.. sa 6CTA OR 6LTA engine pang 250kva na gensets.. (ayan din ang gamit na engine ng mga heavy equipment) sa parts it will only cost 80k sa overhaul... madami kasing parts satin yan...

actually meron kaming ginagamit na genset sa planta 35kva duetz/weichai... cont. ang gamit namin dun.. mas nakaka tipid pa kasi kami kesa sa meralco power... taon na yun.. mukhang ewan na nga yung generator pero in good working condition pa din...

**Retz** · December 26th, 2013 05:05 PM

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based on the part number looks like a cummins engine sir manikis? o nga pala sir manikis, minsan pag na deliver ung genset sa amin nakalagay lang sa labas and nakakalimutan takpan hindi ba masisira or anong kailangan palitan pag napasukan ng tubig ung sa may muffler?

**glenn manikis** · December 29th, 2013 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by Retz

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based on the part number looks like a cummins engine sir manikis? o nga pala sir manikis, minsan pag na deliver ung genset sa amin nakalagay lang sa labas and nakakalimutan takpan hindi ba masisira or anong kailangan palitan pag napasukan ng tubig ung sa may muffler?

pinasok ng water sa may muffler? nag daan ba sa exhaust pipe?

masisira?

kung hindi umabot sa engine.. wala naman masisira...

at hindi naman pinapasok ng water yun unless nalang kung naka sahod ang pagkakagawa...

at kung pa vertical ang pipe dapat may takip yun... or flopper..

kung horizontal dapat may cut na angled ang exhaust pipe...

SOP naman yan sir...

**glenn manikis** · January 2nd, 2014 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by rollyic

sir glenn, is it true na possible i-convert ang car engine into a generator set?
sabi kasi ng pinsan ko, bili na lang daw kami ng diesel or gas engine tapos i-convert nya.

if possible, anong pros & cons non?
thanks in advance.

possible naman sir...

pero hindi advisable because ang dami mo sir.... need to convert...

then yung alternator or dynamo na gagamitin nyo dapat 3600rpm... sa genset nasa 1800 lang...

hindi din tatagal ang engine.... usually a car engine last for 500k kms..

sa conversion namin ang 10,000 hrs. sa generator is equivalent na to 2,000,000 kms. na po...

bumile nalang po kayo.. iwas sakit ng ulo pa...

**Walter** · January 2nd, 2014 05:38 PM

What is the going price of a new and used 40 KVA generator with silent enclosure?

**glenn manikis** · January 3rd, 2014 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Walter

What is the going price of a new and used 40 KVA generator with silent enclosure?

bnew cummins 50kva silent type, marathon alternator all standard accessories included market price is 530k pero pwede hanggang 480k. ON-STOCK na yan sir...

if you are willing to wait naman for 60 days i can get it for only 440k silent type

bnew duetz/weichai 40kva silent type 440k