Bakit ka badtrip today?

[vinj]

Agree with you bro... Matutuyuan ka lang...

Lalo na iyong nasa mga village entrances.... Bigay ka na lang ng ID....

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Yung pinaka malabo dati was yung nandun na ako sa no-sticker lane ng isang school, giving my ID as i was going to fetch a friend of mine, ayaw pa rin ako papasukin ng guard.

My friend taught me sa village entrance just say "resident" or "homeowner" with confidence or if you're with a companion say "hatid lang ng resident". Just don't do it at villages that have long time guards and are familiar with the residents.

I used to do that in BF Paranaque when i would cut through from Sucat to Alabang years ago.

[vinj]

i told my wife to just call the homeowner association and buy the sticker there

On a related note, i purchased a lot recently and when i was requesting for a sticker, I was told that the Homeowner's Association that only residents with houses are allowed to buy stickers. WTF!!! I swear, some associations really test one's patience (incl. the one i reside at now). Grabe rin pulitika at that level.

[_Cathy_]

the guard told me that since i dont live there i cant get the resident sticker but there is a sticker for a guest or child of a homeowner na same lang ang presyo ng resident sticker
still the guard insists i cant fall on that category (child/guest of homeowner) since i dont live there
ridiculous d ba? so i just left him kasi i'm holding the trafic na
ngayon natatawa na lang ako sa kababaan ng IQ niya
i told my wife to just call the homeowner association and buy the sticker there

That's ridiculous. Ako nahi high blood sa kwento mo I would assume they require the car to be registered in the address to qualify for a resident sticker?

I used to do that in BF Paranaque when i would cut through from Sucat to Alabang years ago.

I remember my ex's Dad almost got into a fight because the guard won't let him in bec they did not have a sticker yet. BUT he already showed his license addressed at BF I guess bec some residents refuse to buy a sticker.

Plus nakaka asar yung mga maarte na village. I remember when Southbay was still new, they would not let you in without advise from the resident. I am not sure if this is still being practiced. I did not mind this at Southbay since I do not normally go there but I hate how a lot of villages have followed suit. Sometimes I have to wait 10 mins pa. Sabi ko nga dati sa guard mukha ba ko magnanakaw

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[CVT]

On a related note, i purchased a lot recently and when i was requesting for a sticker, I was told that the Homeowner's Association that only residents with houses are allowed to buy stickers. WTF!!! I swear, some associations really test one's patience (incl. the one i reside at now). Grabe rin pulitika at that level.

Similar issue with my purchased lot bro., adjacent to our house.

I intend to fence the lot and to build a roof (just a trellis) to park one or two of our rides so that I would not contribute to the growing problem of street parking in our village.... The rest would just be open space for our use...

And then, they asked me to just write a letter informing them of my intentions..... Now, they're asking me for a P50K bond non-refundable just for that simple improvement which will not even warrant a permit from the city government...

WTF,- this is not even in the construction guidance of our village,- and they want to do that??? Will talk with them later....

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[CVT]

BF,- ginagamitan ko lang sila (dati) ng cedula (worth P6) na ang address ay sa loob ng BF....

Kainis nga ang pinaghihintay ka sa labas habang itinatawag sa may-ari ng bahay kung ini-expect ka nilang bisita... Para bang takot sa mga maniningil ng utang na gusto nilang pagtaguan/takbuhan... hahahaha!.... Mga villages dito sa SouthMM na alam kong ganyan... Tierra Nueva sa Alab-Zap Road, Las Pinas Royale sa LPC, PhilAm Village sa LPC... Kainis! Sobrang "exclusive" ang mga feeling ng mga ito.. hahaha!

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[_Cathy_]

BF,- ginagamitan ko lang sila (dati) ng cedula (worth P6) na ang address ay sa loob ng BF....

Kainis nga ang pinaghihintay ka sa labas habang itinatawag sa may-ari ng bahay kung ini-expect ka nilang bisita... Para bang takot sa mga maniningil ng utang na gusto nilang pagtaguan/takbuhan... hahahaha!.... Mga villages dito sa SouthMM na alam kong ganyan... Tierra Nueva sa Alab-Zap Road, Las Pinas Royale sa LPC, PhilAm Village sa LPC... Kainis! Sobrang "exclusive" ang mga feeling ng mga ito.. hahaha!

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Oh wow??? Sobrang dami na pala na villages may ganyan practice! Umiinit din ulo ko sa ganyan I go to this village that has the same practice. There was an instance na muntik na kong hindi mapapasok kasi hindi naibilin sa helper na bago pa na I am coming over To make things worse, the house that I go to is at a dead end, the streets are really narrow and all the residents double park so I have to REVERSE my car all the way back because there is no space for me to manoeuvre. Sobrang hassle.

[vinj]

That's ridiculous. Ako nahi high blood sa kwento mo I would assume they require the car to be registered in the address to qualify for a resident sticker?



I remember my ex's Dad almost got into a fight because the guard won't let him in bec they did not have a sticker yet. BUT he already showed his license addressed at BF I guess bec some residents refuse to buy a sticker.

Plus nakaka asar yung mga maarte na village. I remember when Southbay was still new, they would not let you in without advise from the resident. I am not sure if this is still being practiced. I did not mind this at Southbay since I do not normally go there but I hate how a lot of villages have followed suit. Sometimes I have to wait 10 mins pa. Sabi ko nga dati sa guard mukha ba ko magnanakaw

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I remember an article of James Deakin a few years ago about the security guards and their inherent lack of logic, coupled with stupid subdivision rules. There was one guard who refused to let a visitor enter and drop off a gift at a house inside a high end subdivision until the homeowner could be reached. The guard couldn't get through and made the visitor wait for quite a while, even if she introduced herself to him (the visitor was Cory Aquino).

In another Ortigas area village, i really blew my top when the guards would not let me in to fetch my own daughter as they could not reach the homeowner to ask permission to let me in!!! They knew me well enough since i fetch my kid there regularly. My kid had to walk out to me, in the rain at that, and mister sekyu did not even get the point.

*CVT, grabe talaga yung mga village association. Village idiots indeed.

[vinj]

I remember an article of James Deakin a few years ago about the security guards and their inherent lack of logic, coupled with stupid subdivision rules. There was one guard who refused to let a visitor enter and drop off a gift at a house inside a high end subdivision until the homeowner could be reached. The guard couldn't get through and made the visitor wait for quite a while, even if she introduced herself to him (the visitor was Cory Aquino).
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Here's the article on that: No ID, No Entry | Motoring, Business Features, The Philippine Star | philstar.com

No ID, No Entry
BACKSEAT DRIVER By James Deakin | Updated July 23, 2008 - 12:00am
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All the armed forces live by a motto. It’s a simple creed to cling onto when you’re in the heat of battle and your faith has been put to the test. This varies from country to country, of course, but some of the more popular ones come to mind. For the marines, it’s: “No Pain, No Gain!” for the air force, it’s: “No Guts, No Glory!” For the navy, its: “No Valor, No Honor!” For our local security guards, its: “No ID, No Entry!”

I don’t know about you, but for me, encountering a power-tripping security guard ranks right up there with contracting genital warts. I’m not saying that all security guards behave like this, of course; I’m just talking about the frustrated-cop-type that never made the cut who gets high on the little power he or she is afforded. Those are the ones that really get under my skin. And when you do come across one like that, take my advice – do not argue with them. Because they will simply drag you down to their level of stupidity and then beat you with experience.

Take this situation in Alabang Hills Village a few months ago. My sister-in-law is out delivering invitations to her daughter’s 5th birthday party. So, she lines up patiently in the non-residents line, comes up to the guard house, takes her window down and hands over her license.

The guard asks, “Where are you going, ma’am? What is the purpose of your visit?” She cheerfully explains that she is just delivering some party invitations to her friend’s houses. Big mistake. That is too much information for him to absorb, and he doesn’t remember seeing that in his employee training manual. He only knows “OB”, the acronym for “Official Business”, which is like the generic secret password to entering buildings and villages all over the country.

He tells her to pull over to the side while he attempts to call each house to see if they are expecting this tall, foreign-looking, invitation-bearing woman as a visitor. You can imagine what happens next. The guard now needs to dig up the telephone numbers of each resident. He will not trust my sister-in-law’s cell phone directory for the numbers even if most of his records are, of course, outdated. Think about it – how many times have you informed the village guards of your change of phone numbers or contact details? Exactly. The defense rests your honor.

She stays idling on the side of the road for 15-minutes. Nothing happens.

Livid, she eventually walks up to him and demands to know why she is being detained so long. He explains that the he cannot get through to the numbers he has listed, and for the one number that did answer, the homeowner wasn’t home, so therefore could not possibly be expecting anyone, which in turn, in his own feeble mind, means that my sister-in-law is actually a terrorist and these envelopes, which look so convincingly similar to children’s-party invites, are actually anthrax letters that are designed to wipe out the entire association once they inhale the deadly spores.

The long and short of it all was that Manong Rumsfeld refused to allow my sister-in-law to enter the village, despite the fact that she had given her license, been honest about her purpose of visit, and, for whatever it was worth, was driving a new car with an Ayala Alabang village sticker on it. Benefit of the doubt would have been nice.

At first I thought that it was only foreign-looking women that fell victim to this. But apparently not. Our very own Business Motoring Editor, Dong Magsajo, got a good taste of this inconvenientitis while happily cruising up to his appointment with the Libyan embassy in Dasmariñas Village. As suspected, the guard says, “Park over on the side. I will call the embassy to ask if they are expecting you.” Ten minutes goes by. Nothing. Despite allowing himself a cushion of 15 minutes before his appointment, Dong is now running late.

Dong eventually walks out of his car, up to the guard house and asks what the hold up is. The guard tells him to go back to his car and wait. “For what? That’s all I’ve been doing for more than ten minutes. Waiting!” Dong replies. To think that after all this time, the guard had not even placed the call yet. He even had the gall to say, “We have a lot to do here. I’m busy. I will call when I get time.” Dong eventually calls the embassy from his cell phone in complete frustration.

The embassy personnel demanded to know why the guard was giving their guest such a hard time, especially since they had put Dong’s name on the list of expected visitors. It was quite obvious that the guard was put in his place and had now lost face. So, he does what all chastised guards would do. He kicks down. As the guard got off Dong’s phone, he tells him, “Okay. They are expecting you. But you need to use the Pasay road gate. All embassy visits must go through those gates.”

Now – anyone that has ever driven in Makati will know that to drive from one gate to another at the wrong time of day can take you anywhere from 15-30 minutes. I don’t know why Dong did, but he did. But when he gets to Pasay road gate, guess what happens? Exactly the same routine. He, like my sister-in-law, just turned around, missed their appointments and made a mental note avoid transacting any type of business within these villages. It’s just too much stress.

And if you think that is bad, spare a thought for Cory Aquino. One of our readers shared this story about the former president when she tried dropping something off at his house in Corinthian Gardens, when she, too, had a taste of the village people.

The house she intended to visit was in full view of the guard house, yet the guard, who in fairness may have just been doing his job, made them wait on the side of the road while he calls the resident. This would normally not be too bad, but let’s face it, it is highly unrealistic to expect the owner of the house (a person prominent enough to have Cory Aquino visiting his home) answer the phone and talk to this village guard.

So there they sat.

Eventually, Cory Aquino rolls down her window and said quite politely, “Hijo, kilala mo ba ako?” The guard stood up straight and saluted her and said with a big smile, “Oo po, ma’am President!” Yet he still made them wait. Eventually, just like Dong and my sister in law, she too turned around and left.

Rules may be rules, but it becomes redundant if it ends up painting people into a corner. You may say that it shouldn’t matter who the person is and that being the motoring editor of a newspaper or Cory Aquino doesn’t entitle you to preferential treatment, and everyone should follow the same rules. And I agree. So why doesn’t the guard call up each resident when the PLDT messenger comes through. Or the Meralco guy? Or the mailman? When will they finally understand that effective security is not just about double barrel shot guns, 38 caliber pistols and this useless checking of the trunk – its about having a sixth sense: common sense.

After all, if crime can be organized, why can’t our authorities?

[uls]

I don’t know about you, but for me, encountering a power-tripping security guard ranks right up there with contracting genital warts.

yeah exactly

hilig talaga mag power trip mga sekyu

[uls]

robot kasi mga yan

kung ano ang instruction sa kanila yan ang susundin

they're not allowed to use their own judgement