Mazda2 [MERGED]

[parakitoJDM]

Here is my non-car expert summary of Mazda 2 vs. Competitor hatchback comparison results

Mazda 2 vs. Jazz vs. Fiesta

Engine Power : Jazz
Fuel Efficiency : Jazz
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ser lamborghinione, on the power department magugulat ka yung Fiesta ngayon has actually alot of grunt. so i think it has enough reserve to beat the Jazz. though power shows. 120ps for Jazz and 117hp for Fiesta, the latter has slightly fatter torque. u'd be (pleasantly) surprised.... pero yun nga lang yung dashboard plastics ng Fiesta eh mas mukhang cheap talaga....

pero although kahit mas lower yung Mazda2 in terms of power....yung group test ginawa sa Japan. lumabas na top yung Mazda 2 interms of Race track performance, and lower fuel consumption..... but u do have to sacrifice some leg space compared to the jazz...

[ianmitsulancer]

The only LHD Colt made in Asia is the Taiwan-made Colt Plus (thats the bloated extended-rear wagon/MPV version of the Colt)

There were rumors that the Colt Plus was supposed to be launched here but its been like 2 years already and still nothing.

PS: The next Nissan March/Micra will also be made in Thailand just like the Yaris, Jazz and the soon to be launched Mazda 2 and Ford Fiesta (this means the next March/Micra could also be sold here), but knowing NMPI, we're not sure if it will make it here.

haiz... there goes MMPC's missed opportunity to beat the B market segment... im sure they have their reasons...

[lamborghinione]

ser lamborghinione, on the power department magugulat ka yung Fiesta ngayon has actually alot of grunt. so i think it has enough reserve to beat the Jazz. though power shows. 120ps for Jazz and 117hp for Fiesta, the latter has slightly fatter torque. u'd be (pleasantly) surprised.... pero yun nga lang yung dashboard plastics ng Fiesta eh mas mukhang cheap talaga....

pero although kahit mas lower yung Mazda2 in terms of power....yung group test ginawa sa Japan. lumabas na top yung Mazda 2 interms of Race track performance, and lower fuel consumption..... but u do have to sacrifice some leg space compared to the jazz...

Sir parakito, eto siguro yung reason bakit binoto ng karamihan na car reviewers ang Mazda 2 as 2008 World Car of the Year!

By the way, anu-ano yung competitor ni Mazda 2 sa group test sa Japan?

[lamborghinione]

As for the Mazda2 eh mauuna ang 5 door hatch at malamang ang closest rival nito ay ang Suzuki Swift,forget the Yaris which is really dull(still wondering bakit walang 1.3 liter variant nito!) dahil for sure sisikat tong Mazda2 basta't ok ang pricing nya!

Eto problema sa Mazda/Ford, hindi lahat ng prospective buyers ay aware na may malaking discount kang makukuha sa kanila. Dapat ibagsak na yung introductory SRP ng units nila para malaki ang impact kagad sa mga prospective buyers similar sa strategy ng mga Korean carmakers.

Imbes na magbigay ng malaking discount babaan na kagad yung SRP.
Hindi naman kasi lahat ng buyers humihingi ng malaking discount kaya akala mahal din Mazda.

Kung Honda buyer ka, since sanay kang walang discount na binibigay sa yo, pero pag nakita mo yung SRP ng Mazda/Ford, napakababa kagad, magdadalawang isip ka syempre. Baka eto na yung time na mag change-religion ka.

Presyo din ang pang-akit sa mga Toyota lovers(usually dependability ang hanap).

Isipin mo to, Toyota and Honda, no. 1 and 3 sa local market, most
trusted brands pa sila. So kung ikaw(Mazda/Ford), gusto mong i-woo loyal buyers nila, hindi mo man matalo sa engineering prowess(Honda-fuel efficient/powerful engines, Toyota-dependable), pero sa pagbaba ng presyo, may chance di ba?

I'm not anti-Honda or Toyota, follower din naman ako ng mga brands na to. Pero for some buyers, no. 1 sa kanila yung value for money when choosing a car which I think lamang yung Mazda at Ford sa ibang Japanese brands. Sad to say majority of all local buyers are NOT aware of it.

In short, wag gawin 805K ang price Mazda 2! Babaan pa! Ang haba-haba ng pinagsasabi ko, eto lang pala bottomline.

[eggman]

I think marami namang variants yan(1.3 liter variant sya yata,unlike Yaris at Swift na 1.5 liter lang ang available at least sa Phil market) so wag muna kayong mag-judge na mahal nga ang Mazda2..805K ang top of the line 1.5 liter A/T nya..

[parakitoJDM]

By the way, anu-ano yung competitor ni Mazda 2 sa group test sa Japan?

ser makikita mo yung sa Youtube, may video dun made by Best Motoring...

mga ibang kasama nya ay Toyota Yaris (w/ CVT which one Fuel efficiency), Suzuki Swift Sport, Mitsubishi Colt.

[AG4]

ser lamborghinione, on the power department magugulat ka yung Fiesta ngayon has actually alot of grunt. so i think it has enough reserve to beat the Jazz. though power shows. 120ps for Jazz and 117hp for Fiesta, the latter has slightly fatter torque. u'd be (pleasantly) surprised...

Comparison:
Jazz 1.5: 120 PS * 6600 rpm, 145 Nm * 4800 rpm
Fiesta 1.6: 120 PS * 6000 rpm, 152 Nm * 4050 rpm
Mazda 2 1.5: 103PS * 6000 rpm, 137 Nm * 4000 rpm

Jazz 1.3: 100 PS * 6000 rpm, 127 Nm * 4800 rpm
Fiesta 1.4: 96 PS * 5750 rpm, 128 Nm * 4200 rpm
Mazda 2 1.3: 86 PS * 6000 rpm, 122Nm * 3500 rpm

pero yun nga lang yung dashboard plastics ng Fiesta eh mas mukhang cheap talaga...

I heard that the quality is ok, guess we must just wait and see the actual unit.
Like what Tom Ford of Fith Gear said when moving from a Focus to a Fiesta, its like you just downsized without the feeling that you also downgraded.

[lamborghinione]

ser makikita mo yung sa Youtube, may video dun made by Best Motoring...

mga ibang kasama nya ay Toyota Yaris (w/ CVT which one Fuel efficiency), Suzuki Swift Sport, Mitsubishi Colt.

Sir parakito, quite interesting. Hindi sinama yung Honda jazz? Baka nasa hall of fame na kaya hindi nasama, hahaha

Anyway, it's a big achievement already for Mazda 2 to topple yaris, swift and colt in a racing test drive.

[lamborghinione]

Sorry, double post

[lamborghinione]

I think marami namang variants yan(1.3 liter variant sya yata,unlike Yaris at Swift na 1.5 liter lang ang available at least sa Phil market) so wag muna kayong mag-judge na mahal nga ang Mazda2..805K ang top of the line 1.5 liter A/T nya..

Sir eggman, I'm not saying na mahal ang Mazda 2

I think deceiving pa rin yun 805K, kung kaya naman ng Mazda na magbigay ng let's say 50 to 70K(or more??) discount e di around 755 to 735K na lang price for top of the line model. Yung lower variants mga 600k to 700K na lang nun. Di ba malaking attraction to for would be Mazda2 buyers? Yung future Jazz owners baka piliin na lang nila yung Mazda2 kasi mas affordable.

Eto lang formula ko:

More sales = more profits = brand image/trust improvement(parang Honda or Toyota, pag marami kang nakikita sa daan, meaning maraming happy and satisfied owners,then gusto mo na rin bumili unless gusto mo kakaiba ka)

Ibang prospective buyers, bine based lang nila sa dami ng bumibili.

Ako nga nung makita ko yung price ng mga Mazda sa mga car magazines at website ng Mazda(nasa striking distance lang sa Hondra price teritory), inisnab ko lang e, syempre Honda pa rin ako pero nung sinubukan kong mag-inquire at humingi ng malaking discount, aba DEAL kagad sinabi, ayun di na ako nagdalawang isip pa, Mazda kagad kinuha ko.

See, ang laki ng impact pag very-very-very competitive ang SRP,

Anyway, kanya-kanyang strategy naman nyan and I'm not the boss. Observations ko lang mga to.

Tsaka na lang siguro taasan ang price pag sobrang mabenta na Mazda2, ehehehe