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    Not enough revs on the launch. With cars with that little torque, you have to launch at around 4-5k rpm to keep it from bogging in first gear.... especially the FR-S/BRZ/86. I recall us doing mid-8's to 100 km/h (62 mph) with two people on board... which suggests low 8s to 60 mph.

    I can believe that the MX-5 is faster, though... so much more midrange torque and so much less weight than the Toyota.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Not enough revs on the launch. With cars with that little torque, you have to launch at around 4-5k rpm to keep it from bogging in first gear.... especially the FR-S/BRZ/86. I recall us doing mid-8's to 100 km/h (62 mph) with two people on board... which suggests low 8s to 60 mph.

    I can believe that the MX-5 is faster, though... so much more midrange torque and so much less weight than the Toyota.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    yeah Roman the tall guy doesn't know tricks with both cars.

    Nathan knows the proper rpm required to get a good launch.

    the miata burns the toyobaru like it had 200hp also but I think the skyactiv engine is a better engine than the subi engine. and the weight disribution/suspension is abit better.

    I wonder if the miata had better tires.

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    It's a sure bet the tires are better.

    The problem with the Toyobaru engine is it's like a big old Honda SiR motor.

    You gotta rev it to 5k for VTEC to kick in, yo.

    At higher speeds and rpm, it kicks the Miata's ass. But by that point, you're already playing catch up.

    The only place where the 86 will have a full speed advantage here in the Philippines is on the SCTEX.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Lightweight Miatas, Speedster(left) & Spyder(right), Showcased at SEMA


    Aaron Turpen of gizmag shares:
    Mazda is showcasing two new MX-5 Miata concepts at the Specialty Equipment Manufacturer’s Association (SEMA) show in Las Vegas. The concepts, based on the 2016 MX-5, are the MX-5 Spyder and the MX-5 Speedster, both aimed towards the core of the lightweight, open-air basis of the Miata.

    Specially designed leather adorns the Speedster's interior Luxury has a whole new meaning in a Miata The luxury top of the Speedster concept matches the beautiful leather inside Harkening back to the luxurious tuning seen in the aftermarket for the Miata of old, this ...
    Mazda’s design team in North America went with two ideas. One aimed towards a more reminiscent tuner’s dream, the other towards pure sport focus. Both are based on the 2016 Mazda MX-5 Miata unveiled last year and now in showrooms.

    The Spyder concept is a more throwback look at the Miata’s quarter century of heritage, including a bikini top and improved aerodynamics in tribute to the car’s rich racing history. Carbon fiber aero additions, a new grille intake, and Yokohama ADVAN Racing RS II 17-inch wheels are showcased. Inside, Spinneybeck PRIMA natural leather is the highlighted upgrade. This is meant to showcase a nostalgic, but higher-end Miata, reminding onlookers of the heights the car has been taken to, in terms of luxury and power, by tuners in the past.

    The MX-5 Speedster, on the other hand, is all business. This is a truly race-ready Miata that takes "back to basics" to a whole new level. It’s reminiscent of the roadsters of the 1950s, dumping everything non-essential in the name of lightweight open-top speed.
    The Miata’s windshield is gone, being replaced by an old-school deflector. Custom lightweight wheels from Extreme Gram, an adjustable coilover suspension (30mm lower), a center-mounted exhaust from RACING BEAT, and an Alcantara interior finish the job. That leather covers carbon fiber Mu-Len-Delta seats.

    Several other parts of the car have been replaced with carbon fiber as well, including the doors. In all, the MX-5 Speedster dropped an impressive 250 lb (113 kg) from its production counterpart.

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    Speedster(right) ...beri nice

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    our mx5 here is either the a/t or the manual (does not have leather seats) unlike in the US or some parts of the world where thy have the sport, club, and grand touring models.

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    Remember Ice Road Truckers?


    Go home Miata. You are not a truck Road trip: to Alaska's Arctic limits in a Mazda MX-5 | Top Gear


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    Would they ever offer leather seats for the Manual? I'm not a fan of fabric seats but it seems like leather is only available for AT.

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