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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    ^and that is cash? Weird, free LTO and TPL are standard for all vehicle purchases at all casas regardless of cash or financing. They can withhold the comprehensive insurance or even tints but not those 2.
    When I was shopping around for the Ranger when it was new, not all dealerships offered free LTO. It depends on how hot the car is selling. These are the first to go free, but sometimes, dealerships choose to charge even these (as opposed to giving these for free and charging DI which I think is a more awful business practice).

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    Well I have never experienced such a practice (Isuzu, Kia, Toyota and now Mazda) and from ericute's narrative I smell a scam. Good thing management got wind of it.

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    Yeah, the numbers game. Argument between a guy who has the vehicle and is actually driving the car and another whose looking at specs on paper / screen.

    Hearing Jut makes you want a Toyota Corolla instead of a Mazda3.

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    comparing the numbers on paper is not really an exercise in futility. it has its uses.
    but we must remember that, time and again, sometimes they do not quite live up to expectation on the road or track.
    actually driving them is still the better judge..

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    comparing the numbers on paper is not really an exercise in futility. it has its uses.
    but we must remember that, time and again, sometimes they do not quite live up to expectation on the road or track.
    actually driving them is still the better judge..

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    Whatever the numbers are, however the cars perform, look & handle....what matters most is if it floats your boat.

    There will always be badge loyalists & there will always be those who are willing guinea pigs.....whatever floats your boat.:D

    In as much as I'd love to have that extra kick in my cars, having our roads lost to traffic density will only leave me w/ sleeping horses.
    My hobo M3, however, has given me the perfect balance of everything & has been beyond expectations.....in floating my boat.:D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Yeah, the numbers game. Argument between a guy who has the vehicle and is actually driving the car and another whose looking at specs on paper / screen.

    Hearing Jut makes you want a Toyota Corolla instead of a Mazda3.
    Well then if these mere talks are all true then I might buy a 1.3 Vios who said can reach 190km/h top speed by some Tsikoteer

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    Quote Originally Posted by EarthWorm View Post
    Well then if these mere talks are all true then I might buy a 1.3 Vios who said can reach 190km/h top speed by some Tsikoteer
    Oh, you mean this one:

    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    2014 Vios 1.3 E AT

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    Of course, downhill yan. On a flat road the Vios struggles to go past 175. With 3 on board, it barely goes past 160.


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    Where that Tsikoteer actually specified that it was a downhill, and that the Vios only reaches 175 on a flat road?

    If your magazine-data mindset still thinks my claims are incredulous, you're free to join me next time I head out to the expressway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Oh, you mean this one:



    Where that Tsikoteer actually specified that it was a downhill, and that the Vios only reaches 175 on a flat road?

    If your magazine-data mindset still thinks my claims are incredulous, you're free to join me next time I head out to the expressway.
    I'm not skeptical at all. I bet you can reach 200km/h on any lower spec variants you wish to steer. Whatever makes you feel good, then 200km/h it is.

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    You guys are hilarious! Haha!:D
    Now, let's get back to regular M2 programming.

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    The best thing with Mazda lately is the interior quality and design. Torn between a TOTL Mazda2 hatch or the Mazda3 1.5V.

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