makupad po ba talaga sportivo TURBO?

[Wh1stl3r]

Why not slap a water/methanol injection kit on it if you want more power? If anyone's interested I'm trying to get rid of mine. Brand new, out of the box. I don't need it anymore.

[hinDMaxsiado]

They're just as fuel efficient at highway speeds, (the highest I've heard of for the Crosswind in similar conditions is about 20 km/l) but in traffic, those big engines aren't as good as a manual Crosswind.

When mine was new, it could get 12+++ km/l in the heaviest traffic. The 3.0 in the DMax can't do that.

There's a big difference between a 300 kilometer run, done at a steady 80 km/h on the highway drafting other cars, and actual, day-to-day driving... though I have seen 16-20 km/l from a Focus and about 15-17 km/l in traffic from the Alto.

Chief Niky, we do have 3-litre DMax's and a Crosswind, all manual-trannies....

The 3-litre Ddi-iTEQ DMax is by far the most fuel-efficient of the three (3) Isuzu's, and better over-all power....

[kkreuk18]

nagkaron ang tito ko ng crosswind and alterra, ibinenta nya un xwind kasi makupad nga, madalas sya bumiyahe from cavite to laoag, according to him mas matipid talaga un xwind. Sir dmaxsiado, kaw pa lang un 1st na nagsabi na matipid ang dmax vs xwind. Un bayaw ko na may model 04 dmax, swerte na nya maka10-11 km/li dito sa cavite, kaya ayun ibinenta na and planning to get a nissan pickup.
Wala na ko gana magdrive ng isuzu or even own an isuzu, ang pangit sumara ng pinto ng crosswind, another thing is taga sumingil ang kasa ng isuzu!

[hinDMaxsiado]

nagkaron ang tito ko ng crosswind and alterra, ibinenta nya un xwind kasi makupad nga, madalas sya bumiyahe from cavite to laoag, according to him mas matipid talaga un xwind. Sir dmaxsiado, kaw pa lang un 1st na nagsabi na matipid ang dmax vs xwind. Un bayaw ko na may model 04 dmax, swerte na nya maka10-11 km/li dito sa cavite, kaya ayun ibinenta na and planning to get a nissan pickup.
Wala na ko gana magdrive ng isuzu or even own an isuzu, ang pangit sumara ng pinto ng crosswind, another thing is taga sumingil ang kasa ng isuzu!

Chief, the '04 DMax of your bayaw is the non-CRDi 4JH1-TC series with the emblem "3.0 TD Intercooler".... not the CRDi (non-VGT) 4JJ1-TC like the late 2007 to present Philippine-issue DMax with the emblem "3.0 Ddi-iTEQ". You may look into my previous posts chief, even the photo provided ---- that is from the current 4JJ1-TC "standard" Ddi-iTEQ, and mine is manual-transmission....

Just to be fair to your enquiry, we have two DMax (a 2004 3-litre 4JH1-TC like your brother-in-law's and a 2008 3-litre 4JJ1-TC like the ones you see as current model), and also a 2001 Crosswind XT. All the DMax's are manual transmission. Also, if you want pictures, i'm happy to oblidge to post them for you, including the one of the right-hand drive old DMax 4JH1-TC we're renting in west Malaysia....

JUST HANG a bit with me and MAY I ASK YOU to go thru the discussion below:

Now, observe that engine rpm on my panel (picture on previous post) while travelling at 85 kph. i'm at 1750 rpm at 5th-gear.... Now, observe any Crosswind out there running at the same speed of 85 kph and see the engine rpm at 5th-gear.... What do you see on the Crosswind and hear? Di ba medyo maingay na makina nito at 85 kph and that means the Crosswind is running at plus 2000 rpm.... Remember that our diesel engines are 4-stroke, and a 4-stroke diesel engine requires 1 pressure combustion for every 2 revolutions of the crank, and the revolution of the crank is in radial speed (or rpm). In the Crosswind, you're already getting around 1100 pressure combustions per minute while with the DMax Ddi-iTEQ you're only doing 875 pressure combustion per minute.... And for every pressure combustion, diesel fuel is injected....

Also, in comparison, your brother-in-law's as well as our 2004 4JH1-TC DMax "3.0 TD Intercooler", will go thru at about 80 to 85 kph in 5th-gear running already at 2000 rpm engine speed (this is what i see in our 4JH1 and the one right-hand drive i'm using where both have travelled plus 300,000 km) ---- Now, ask your bayaw to drive his DMax with you (or better if you drive it) and if it's manual-tranny, observe his engine rpm while keeping it pegged at 80 kph to 85 kph. Granting that current "Ddi-iTEQ" and your uncle "TD Intercooler" got the same gear reduction ratio, transfer, and identical transmission gears, you might ask now why the "Ddi-iTEQ" revs slower than his identical 3-litre "TD Intercooler"....

....The answer may also lie on how the engines are configured.... But you can check on the configurations which i'm not quite sure though.... The current Ddi-iTEQ is a "long-stroke" engine and it is the most "rectangularly-configured" engine amongst all the locally-available 3-litre to 3.2-litre diesel pickups in the market today. "Rectangular" because it has a smaller bore but a longer stroke. And gyroscopically, if you have a long-stroke configuration, the engine goes thru its powerband slower/ longer because the crank doesn't rev as much like the shorter-stroke. The positive impact of this is that you achieve a wider peak torque breath, better translational power to the ground where better traction is achieved (less wheel-spins) since every ounce of that torque or power is put effectively into the ground, and since the crank doesn't rev as fast, you also achieve longer intervals in between pressure combustions, thus "theoretically" frequency of fuel-injections is lesser than the shorter-stroke. Kindly take note, however, that the "timing" or "sequence" on the fuel-injection per-se is just purely based on the assumptions of a slower rev of the crank, BUT i do not really know for sure the intricasies of the design engineering here....

Also, although the 4JH1-TC (130 ps at 3800 rpm) and the 4JJ1-TC (146 ps at 3600 rpm) almost got the same power and torque (280 Nm to 294 Nm), the 4JJ1-TC "3.0 Ddi-iTEQ" delivers its torque longer and at a much lower rev range starting at 1400 rpm.... The 4JH1-TC "3.0 TD Intercooler" peak torque starts at 2000 rpm.... And peak torque is the region along the powerband where the engine is running at most efficient.... And under normal driving conditions in Metro Manila i rev only between 1400 rpm to 2000 rpm with the Ddi-iTEQ, depending on the terrain.

In comparison of bore-and-stroke dimensions in reference to as the most "rectangularly-configured", lemme itemise some of them:
3.0-litre Toyota Hilux D4-D - 96.0 mm x 103.0 mm
3.0-litre Ford Ranger TDCi - 96.0 mm x 102.0 mm
3.2-litre Strada Di-D - 98.5 mm x 105.0 mm
3.0-litre DMax Ddi-iTEQ - 95.4 mm x 104.9 mm

Moreover, if you see all my fuel-consumption readings with the 3-litre Ddi-iTEQ, say from Metro Manila-to-Baguio by way of Marcos highway at 15.4 km per litre over 293.1 km travelled, from Metro Manila-to-Naga City via the "Bitukang Manok" uphill route at 17 km per litre over 435.5 km travelled, and most of my city-driving at around 12.3 to 12.5 km per litre, these are actually even a far-cry from what the DOE achieved with the Isuzu Alterra Ddi-iTEQ at 19.44 km per litre over more than 300 km travelled and what the October 2010 Isuzu Dura-Mile Challenge where one professional driver achieved around more than 24.5 km per litre over 1870 km travelled in just one-tank. I just don't quite remember the exact numbers but you can find it out in the internet by typing "How far can a DMax go in one-full tank".... This is posted also at topgear phils. website....
....Honestly, i don't even know how they drove those Ddi-iTEQ without due course of giving some leeway or "rpm allowance" prior to shifting onto the next higher-gear. I meant "rpm allowance prior to shifting up-gear" because it has always been my style to rev as much as 1750 rpm or 2000 rpm (depending on the terrain) prior to shifting onto the next gear because i always want it that at that onset of the next higher gear, i'm already at 1400 rpm minimum (which is the start of the peak flat torque breadth of the DMax Ddi-iTEQ all the way to 3400 rpm)....

Just my 2 centavos amigo....

[RakataK]

From Isuzu's brochure wayback 2006 or 2007?

Alterra - 12 k/l - highway; 9 k/l city
Dmax - 14 k/l - higway
Crosswind (Sportivo) - 15.**k/l - highway

Wag ng mag-away mga taga-isuzu nag road test niyan

[hinDMaxsiado]

From Isuzu's brochure wayback 2006 or 2007?

Alterra - 12 k/l - highway; 9 k/l city
Dmax - 14 k/l - highway
Crosswind (Sportivo) - 15.**k/l - highway

Wag ng mag-away mga taga-isuzu nag road test niyan

Mas lalo niyo pa pong na-confirm chief Rakatak (parang tunog diesel ng Crosswind clunker hehe) ang previous post ---- kung 2006 or 2007 po yang test na yan, ang makina ng DMaxsiado at Alterra (since they share the same engine sa 3-litre displacement) diyan ay ang lumang 3-litre non-CRDi 4JH1-TC with the emblem "3.0 TD Intercooler"

Yang 2008 DOE test na kung saan pasok chief ang 3-litre Alterra as one of the Top 10 most fuel efficient cars in the Philippines, achieving 19.44 km per litre fuel-mileage, ang makina niyan ay ang 4JJ1-TC standard na CRDi (hindi nga lang VGT-equipped) with the emblem "3.0 Ddi-iTEQ"....

Department of Energy
http://www.alternat1ve.com/biofuel/2...-fuel-economy/


APART FROM THE 2008 DOE TEST chief, you may also refer to what AAP established late last year on both the 3-litre DMax Ddi-iTEQ "4JJ1-TC" and 2.5-litre Crosswind Turbodiesel "4JA1-L", as follows:

OCTOBER 2010 3-litre DMaxsiado Ddi-iTEQ LX 4x2 manual-tranny Isuzu Challenge run ---- 1844 kilometres over 76 litres of diesel = 24.26 km per litre

TopGear Philippines
http://www.topgear.com.ph/news/how-far-can-a-d-max-pickup-truck-go-with-just-one-full-tank

Manila Bulletin
http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/284780/dmax-runs-1844-kms-one-full-tank


AUGUST 2010 2.5-litre Crosswind Isuzu Challenge run ---- 1190 kilometres over 55 litres of diesel = 21.64 km per litre

Manila Bulletin
http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/270951/isuzu-crosswind-runs-1190-km-1-full-tank


The test driver ---- no less than people who are more in the know, in the person of Mr. Domingo Escarieses of the Automobile Association of the Philipppines (AAP).

[shelu]

as in mabagal talaga, lalo na ang A/T. sobrang bagal. at 100kph, it seems that the engine will explode into pieces. mine is xuv 05, A/T turbo. my first xwind is 02 xto manual. there is really a world of difference between the two. my xto can reach 140kph with ease. it is a pity watching other cars zooming fast while you are just below 100kph. if your mind is really fix on crosswinds and want for speed, choose the smaller ones, xti-manual. it is really faster over the big bodies, XUV and sportivos. however, this thing, being a slower car, doesnt matter to me. i bought this car for fuel efficiency, not power. if there are people out there wanting for power, crosswinds are not for you. buy something else.

[Ry_Tower]

as in mabagal talaga, lalo na ang A/T. sobrang bagal. at 100kph, it seems that the engine will explode into pieces. mine is xuv 05, A/T turbo. my first xwind is 02 xto manual. there is really a world of difference between the two. my xto can reach 140kph with ease. it is a pity watching other cars zooming fast while you are just below 100kph. if your mind is really fix on crosswinds and want for speed, choose the smaller ones, xti-manual. it is really faster over the big bodies, XUV and sportivos. however, this thing, being a slower car, doesnt matter to me. i bought this car for fuel efficiency, not power. if there are people out there wanting for power, crosswinds are not for you. buy something else.

Amen, it is not built for that purpose. But as an AUV, it is still one of the best. Only the Innova Diesel has a very slight edge due to its design and engine. Pero Sportivo salpakan mo ng CRDi, ewan lang kung hindi ulit mag-# 1 yan IMO.

[SiRbossR]

frankly, yes. super-kupad as in.

[gmgsport]

...I opened a site related to isuzu & it was mentioned in one of the engine specs that the sportivo's top speed is 135 km/h. based on my experience having a 2010 sportivo m/t, it really has a sluggish acceleration as mentioned in the previous threads having that older type of engine(non-crdi)with a low-charged turbo which is not even noticeable when accelerating...but still i consider it as a dependable ride. low maintenance & fuel efficient. lots of room for the whole family!it all ends up to individual preference if i should say...