Isuzu Alterra

**vicoyski** · July 9th, 2006 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by number001

So the black smoke emanates from "dirty" diesel fuels? Or black smoke is really an inherent characteristic of diesel engines no matter how advanced the technology (ie. CRDi) they might have been designed and engineered with?

Nasa pag-alaga ng vehicle din yan... My neighbor takes good care of his Alterra. It is as quiet and as smokeless as the day he got it.

**OTEP** · July 9th, 2006 01:42 AM

Diesel engines throttle fuel (gas engines throttle air). Black smoke can be normal when running rich under less than ideal conditions (e.g. wrong gear).

Even diesel trucks (personal and commercial) in the U.S. spew black smoke but are still emissions compliant in their respective states.

**vicoyski** · July 9th, 2006 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by OTEP

Diesel engines throttle fuel (gas engines throttle air). Black smoke can be normal when running rich under less than ideal conditions (e.g. wrong gear).

Even diesel trucks (personal and commercial) in the U.S. spew black smoke but are still emissions compliant in their respective states.

But, isn't it that the new ECUs coupled with the CRD technology have effectively reduced the blacksmoke emitted from the exhaust?

**finchy18** · July 9th, 2006 11:28 AM

saw twice .. big bodly and its real wide

**niky** · July 9th, 2006 03:58 PM

Although CRDi engines normally produce less smoke than old diesels, OTEP is correct. Under certain conditions, like full throttle at high load, even CRDi engines will belch black smoke.

It's partially the way you drive it, the condition of the fuel, and how well-maitained it is.

Just watch a VW Cup race with the diesel Golf vans.

**Psalm136:2** · July 9th, 2006 04:05 PM

I had a chance of having a test ride on an Alterra yesterday in one of Isuzu's dealerships (test ride kasi di ako sanay sa matic).

I'd say the quietness is remarkable from a diesel engine. It so quiet even starting it, I didn't even feel the usual vibrations during idling. The ride is so smooth, parang kotse (leaf spring pa to). It's wide, long and comfy.

Though aminado yung agent ko na drawback daw talaga yung center seat sa 2nd row. Pati yung 3rd row, you have to slump back para maging comfortable because of its high flooring.

**number001** · July 9th, 2006 04:35 PM

^Although the Alterra has minimal diesel clatter and vibrations, however it does make loud grunting sounds similar to an Isuzu ELF when accelerating. You are right, the second and third row seats are not comfortable. It actually feels like the Sorento's.

**cardo** · July 10th, 2006 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by number001

^Although the Alterra has minimal diesel clatter and vibrations, however it does make loud grunting sounds similar to an Isuzu ELF when accelerating. You are right, the second and third row seats are not comfortable. It actually feels like the Sorento's.

actually, if you would have time to hang out on an isuzu casa... lahat ng isuzu engines almost sound alike

from the xwind, dmax, alterra to their elf series trucks...

**toyboxph** · July 10th, 2006 01:33 PM

just competed in the isuzu challenge this weekend. did you know that among the 3 models in the competition(alterra, dmnax, xwind), the alterra made the best record in fule efficiency. best mileage for the alterra: 715 kms. xwind: 688 kms., dmax: 671kms. all filled up with only P1000 worth of diesel or 27.5 liters total. fyi lang.