Hid 3000-8000k+ Banned Sana!!!

[Flagg]

Actually, for me lang ha, mas maganda yung standard headlights kesa HID. Yung isang car namin naka-stock-HID, nahihirapan me makita yung daan.

[j-man]

tama ka kapatid!! mabuhay ka!!

ban HID! ban VTEC!! ban turbo!!! :banned:

:bwahaha:

dude you forgot something... ban TINTS!

[XTO]

Actually, for me lang ha, mas maganda yung standard headlights kesa HID. Yung isang car namin naka-stock-HID, nahihirapan me makita yung daan.

ganun din ako. dami ko neighbor na naka 6000K HID fog at naka all weather na head beam combo... nakakasawa daw ang HID kasi maganda lang pag iba nakakakita pero ikaw na nagda-drive eh parehas lang at tiis rin para makita ang daan. sa bagay kanila yun eh... ako okay na sa osram silverstar at bosch all season. palitan na lang.

[GaLynxmo]

Ive read all the posts here, and I am still at a loss as to how much lighting or illumination does a driver really needs to see the road and avoid accidents. To my mind, illumination better than what is necessary can be considered as extravagance, just as food more than necessary is glutony.

I simply cannot understand that which is designed and fitted originally to a car, by so many car engineers who designed it, be simply considered as poorly designed and inadequate? By replacing the original vehicle's headlights, their intensity and their design features, are we saying those engineers are incompetent and poorly educated? Or HID merely a fad to look good or make a statement!

If the problem is because of security, can we not install tint that covers the entire window section of the vehicle, but leaving a small portion of the wind shield, say a square foot or a rectangular portion untinted for the driver to look better at night? Wasnt that a happy compromise? Ours is not an all or nothing world, you know. Everything can be compromised.

HID? a new technology? Ive seen them used as a tool for aggression. Or make the other driver feel inferior or bullied. Yes, I stop because I cant see. Like the wang wang technology used by some vehicles, used not for emergency but for bullying others. My wife, who sometimes rides with me at night, is egging me to install one. Join 'em or lick 'em? I shall remain the latter, or so I think.

[mbeige]

Ive read all the posts here, and I am still at a loss as to how much lighting or illumination does a driver really needs to see the road and avoid accidents. To my mind, illumination better than what is necessary can be considered as extravagance, just as food more than necessary is glutony.

How do you determine a standard? Manufacturers have stated that the 55-65W for halogen bulbs is standard wattage for factory spec headlamp bulbs. For HID, I believe it's smaller, hence more efficient. As such, if somebody decides it's not enough for him, using overwattage lamps and HID is fine, as long as they're properly installed and aimed. If not, then they are abusing their right to property by making it dangerous for other motorists.

I simply cannot understand that which is designed and fitted originally to a car, by so many car engineers who designed it, be simply considered as poorly designed and inadequate? By replacing the original vehicle's headlights, their intensity and their design features, are we saying those engineers are incompetent and poorly educated? Or HID merely a fad to look good or make a statement!

Believe it or not, my supervisor who is an engineer was taught that engineers and accountants in a corporation that builds cars are always trying to find common ground. How so, you ask? Well, engineers will always want the best designs, those that last for a long, long time, and those that perform optimally at any given circumstance. However, accountants must create a need for the market, so cars and their parts are designed to last a certain life cycle, but not necessarily to go bad after such a time. He phrased it in a positive manner, so cars today are designed to break down at some point.

What I'm saying is that even if engineers ultimately design their best for the cars, it does not always get used. Some factors hinder that to the point that have to re-engineer things to conform to a set of standards that come in the form of government laws, safety requirements, as well as physical requirements. This also entails abiding by vehicle manufacturer standards at the factory, regulated mostly by government laws that rule over the transportation department. Any manufacturer can make headlamps that can throw a strong, wide beam of intense light forward to make their car superior, but they must consider other drivers and their safety too. Once again, believe it or not, HID is becoming a fad just because of the hype itself. It's like the iPod - you don't need it, but it's marketed so well that people are taught to want it. The same goes with HID, but it remains that HID is an efficient form of illumination on factory installed units, and similarly so on retrofitted units so long as it's installed and used properly because, like it's been mentioned countless times, it can glare and blind incoming motorists if improperly used. Worse, like you said, it can be used as a tool of aggression, similar to the loudest and baddest car horns, etc.

I'm not saying those engineers could not have done better, it's just that manufacturers should adhere to certain standards so all vehicles will perform similarly and will have uniformity on the road. If not, like in the case of those who improperly retrofit HID's on their car, then that's a case of somebody crossing the line. Like I said earlier, retrofitting is fine as long as it's done properly and aimed properly, so it provides the most light for you but not at the expense of others.

If the problem is because of security, can we not install tint that covers the entire window section of the vehicle, but leaving a small portion of the wind shield, say a square foot or a rectangular portion untinted for the driver to look better at night? Wasnt that a happy compromise? Ours is not an all or nothing world, you know. Everything can be compromised.

Again, it's not legal, nor is it safe, to install limo tint on the windshield. Even if you say you have a "porthole" from the window tint of your front windshield, your peripheral vision - which is just as important - is highly diminished.

HID? a new technology? Ive seen them used as a tool for aggression. Or make the other driver feel inferior or bullied. Yes, I stop because I cant see. Like the wang wang technology used by some vehicles, used not for emergency but for bullying others. My wife, who sometimes rides with me at night, is egging me to install one. Join 'em or lick 'em? I shall remain the latter, or so I think.

That is why it's important to inform others, especially so of installers, of proper HID installation and usage so as not to offend other motorists, create a dangerous situation, or worse, be the cause of a fatal accident. If your car did not come equipped with HID headlamps, you must purchase the correct headlamps that have HID units in them. Otherwise, if your headlamps are originally halogen-based and you attempt to install HID kits, then you'll just leave more scattered light unless whoever does your conversion did it properly.

[Satio]

I would like to make clear specially to HID dealers with laser headlight alignment that no amount of alignment would remove the glare of HID lamps. As stated in the previous threads, [SIZE=3]HID[/SIZE] bulbs require projector lamps to attain the proper focus. All plug and play HID kits specially H4 bulbs without projectors should be banned!

+1,000,000

[wrcastro_ph]

May balita ako na nagkaka hulihan na daw sa edsa ng mga HID.

[josechoyjose]

"PINAS CORRUPT COUNTRY,WALANG DISIPLINA,PERA PERA LANG SA PINAS"

Ang sama naman ng tingin mo sa bansa natin.

[rfb_arki]

walang akong HID...pero wag lahatin na masama ito...wag din lait laitin ang pinas...di lang naman dito may corruption etc etc...

pero yung mga walang magawa at nakikisabay lang sa uso...medyo courtesy naman sa iba...di lang naman kayo gumagamit ng kalye...

[baker123]

Head lamps is for lighting the area fronting the car at night, yung mga taga provinsya may use their car in Manila during daytime, and park their cars at their Manila hotels at night. I did not say ban them too, here in Manila.

sensya Galynxmo, pero im a promdi and it was rude, i think, for you to say banned kami (maraming promdi dito na with HID <oem>) at night dyan sa metro manila, para namang nagkaroon ng Headlight Coding Scheme. but then again. you said "I did not say ban them too, here in Manila" ano ba talaga koya?

mga kapwa tsikoteers. wag tayo maligaw sa topic. this is HID + Proper Use. we dont Ban the people. we Ban the Equipment that is not Properly Used.