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    #31
    wow! I had not idea that its the dealer themselves who add the additive....

    Maybe a tsikoteer who owns a gasoline station can elaborate this

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    #32
    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    wow! I had not idea that its the dealer themselves who add the additive....

    Maybe a tsikoteer who owns a gasoline station can elaborate this
    So, there's no standard way of adding these additives. One station, in order to save on cost, can even opt to not add additives anymore but just add some sort of coloring agents. I thought all the while that these additives are added at the refinery...

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    #33
    our family franchised one before, pero umalis na kami. unioil to be exact.
    bago ibaba yung fuel sa tanks namin, dapat hindi tampered yung seals.
    then, check for water and solid deposits contamination. if ok, tsaka lang ilalagay yung new delivered fuel sa tanks namin.
    if positive sa contamination, binabalik sa depot. so far, never pa namin na-encounter noon na mag positive sa contamination.

    regarding additives, hindi kami ang naglalagay. alam ko yung oil depot mismo. if not, baka sa barko palang hinahaluan na ng additives. pero nung mi-nandate na yung bio fuel, may mga chemical engineers sa pumunta sa station namin tapos sila nag compute kung ilang liters ng bio ang ilalagay para maging 2% or 1% blended. once lang nangyari yun.

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    #34
    I don't think these companies (esp big 3) would allow their dealers to put the additives themselves, you know, these dealers can ruin the companies' reputation at some point if they mess up.

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    #35
    i'm 100% sure additives are not blended at the refinery

    it's blended somewhere down the distribution chain

    either sa depot where tanker trucks are filled up

    or at the dealer

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    a refinery will not bother making different gasolines (like regular, xcs, blaze)

    they're too busy fractioning crude... producing lpg, naphtha, gasoline, kerosene, diesel, fuel oil, lubricating oil, bitumen etc

    they produce base gasoline

    then at the depot dealers specify what blend they're ordering and additives are blended
    Last edited by uls; October 9th, 2012 at 12:37 AM.

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    #36
    Passed by the same gas station again this afternoon, gas boy still adding "additives" into the tanker. Didnt had the chance to snap a shot of the incident.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    i'm 100% sure additives are not blended at the refinery

    it's blended somewhere down the distribution chain

    either sa depot where tanker trucks are filled up

    or at the dealer

    --

    a refinery will not bother making different gasolines (like regular, xcs, blaze)

    they're too busy fractioning crude... producing lpg, naphtha, gasoline, kerosene, diesel, fuel oil, lubricating oil, bitumen etc

    they produce base gasoline

    then at the depot dealers specify what blend they're ordering and additives are blended
    Yes sir, malabo na yung refinery mismo ang maglagay ng additives.
    Before nga, may kumakalat na yung fuel ng different companies ay nangagaling lang sa iisang international company, then bahala na yung local companies (shell, petron, etc) na maghalo ng additives nila.

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    #38
    Quote Originally Posted by babynos01 View Post
    our family franchised one before, pero umalis na kami. unioil to be exact.
    sir,just curious as to why you and your family let go of the franchise? i know that gasoline stations have a low margin for products sold pero super tagal ba ng ROI?

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    babynos01:
    Yes sir, malabo na yung refinery mismo ang maglagay ng additives.
    Before nga, may kumakalat na yung fuel ng different companies ay nangagaling lang sa iisang international company, then bahala na yung local companies (shell, petron, etc) na maghalo ng additives nila.
    ya even oil companies with refineries here import finished products

    and those who import finished products also buy from local refiners

    base gasoline can be swapped. it's a commodity. no brand differentiation. the differentiation happens further down the distribution chain

    and even if everybody has their own additives who knows where the additives come from. they may even have the same source
    Last edited by uls; October 9th, 2012 at 01:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    babynos01:


    ya even oil companies with refineries here import finished products

    and those who import finished products also buy from local refiners

    base gasoline can be swapped. it's a commodity. no brand differentiation. the differentiation happens further down the distribution chain

    and even if everybody has their own additives who knows where the additives come from. they may even have the same source
    Lahat naman ata sila sir imported ang fuel e. Ang refinery ata nila dito is para sa mga oil products na binibenta nila (engine oil, atf, brake fluid, coolant, etc).

    On our case, i can only speak on unioil kasi naging part din kami ng family nila. Yung additive nila is Greenburn combustion tech. Nakausap ko kasi yung Manager and yung iba pa before.

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