NEVER do THIS to your Automatic Transmission Car | The Car Care Nut

**oj88** · November 29th, 2024 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by carxynogen

Yan din yung naisip ko.
Pero I remember the Honda CRV and Honda Civic is now using shift by wire ba tawag dyan?
Yung pindot2 nalang ng button para maka select ng Gear.
Mag make sense din if button na ang type ng gear selectors.

Pero it won't make sense sa mga naka traditional gear lever selectors na AT.

It doesn't matter if it's a physical shifter, knob, or button. There is still a dedicated "Park" mode wherein the transmission stops transmitting power and sets the parking pawl. It is a mode that must be manually engaged or disengaged by the driver.

Just splitting hairs to say that the auto-hold does not put the transmission in Park. It just applies the brakes.

Exceptions to the rule may apply to say, cars with various degrees of self-driving capabilities and EVs. They most often don't have an actual transmission so the actual brakes on each wheel works as a replacement for the parking pawl.

**carxynogen** · November 29th, 2024 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by oj88

Just splitting hairs to say that the auto-hold does not put the transmission in Park. It just applies the brakes.

If indeed this feature exists (Auto-hold will set transmission to Park when stop for longer period), ano kayang car to.
Will wait for shadow, baka nga nag exist to sa isa sa mga car niya.

**LOLZ** · November 29th, 2024 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by ice15

yes, hybrid.

I just find it weird. pero I have no time to look for it sa manual and wala naman akong choice but to follow the instruction na lumabas sa dash.

it seems (atleast from what i've read) to be the opposite situation to the vinfast VF3's park gear being emulated as neutral in Toyota's system has the ICE being mechanically engaged still to the two motors (and drive wheels) and relies on the Regen Motor(MG1) to be the path of least resistance by having both motors turned off. Having the Brakes in Drive or parking pawl engaged allows the MG1 to apply a load without risking the vehicle moving forwards.

**shadow** · November 29th, 2024 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by carxynogen

If indeed this feature exists (Auto-hold will set transmission to Park when stop for longer period), ano kayang car to.
Will wait for shadow, baka nga nag exist to sa isa sa mga car niya.

CRV and NGFT, pag tinanggal mo nga seatbealt ang alam ko nag auto Ebrake siya then shift to P.

Try ko ulit mamaya

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**Motortrend** · November 29th, 2024 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by shadow

CRV and NGFT, pag tinanggal mo nga seatbealt ang alam ko nag auto Ebrake siya then shift to P.

Try ko ulit mamaya

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But you are not supposed to unfasten your seatbelt at a stoplight?

**JohnM** · November 29th, 2024 12:06 PM

NGFT sets the tranny to neutral when auto hold engages but the selector stays on D. There is a bit of a delay when the gas is pressed to resume driving. Expect a lot more delay if the start/stop is engaged. Caught me off guard a few times especially on uphill stops.

XForce remains in D. The car jerks forward when the compressor engages whether on auto hold or just manually stepping on the brakes. Parking brake is engaged automatically if on auto hold for more than a minute (I think). This can startle the driver because it jerks forward when it disengages the hold and engages the parking brake.

IIRC the XV also stays on D but there's no jerking. There is a noticeable movement in the brake pedal to indicate that auto hold is engaged.

**shadow** · November 29th, 2024 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Motortrend

But you are not supposed to unfasten your seatbelt at a stoplight?

Or pag nag open yata ng door. I don't remember

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**Motortrend** · November 29th, 2024 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by shadow

Or pag nag open yata ng door. I don't remember

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Ok. Let us know. Some of us here are waiting for your report. Ha ha!

**carxynogen** · November 29th, 2024 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by shadow

CRV and NGFT, pag tinanggal mo nga seatbealt ang alam ko nag auto Ebrake siya then shift to P.

Try ko ulit mamaya

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Interesting, I am not surprised since these models gear shift selectors are button interface na so madali na silang ma control electronically via firmware.

**carxynogen** · November 29th, 2024 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by JohnM

IIRC the XV also stays on D but there's no jerking. There is a noticeable movement in the brake pedal to indicate that auto hold is engaged.

Sa Santa Fe, eto din yung behavior, may movement yung brake pedal if ma engage na si auto-hold.
It won't engage if light lang tapak mo sa brake pedal.
I assume same din dun sa Montero 3rd gen and up.