The All New Ford Eco-Sport

**freeloader** · June 12th, 2014 09:51 AM

Anyone bought the M/T, any feedback? TIA

**justin27** · June 12th, 2014 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by L1quid

Parang mali, hindi po ba DCT ang gamit ng powershift ng ford, not CVT?

DCT is Ford. Was comparing what happened to Honda when they used the CVT on the City which had issues reason why they reverted to the traditional ATs. This might happen to Ford but they're sticking to it & improving.

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**dandang** · June 12th, 2014 02:50 PM

So has the issue of the automatic transmission been resolved? Now i am having second thoughts about the trend a/t baka mag toyota avanza na lang ako. In avanza i have not heard of any problems or is there?

**dr. d** · June 12th, 2014 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by dandang

So has the issue of the automatic transmission been resolved? Now i am having second thoughts about the trend a/t baka mag toyota avanza na lang ako. In avanza i have not heard of any problems or is there?

the only issue i have heard of the avanza, is its fuel in-efficiency, at least for the 1.5 AT.. officemate claims to struggle to do 7 km/li in the city.

**dandang** · June 12th, 2014 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by dr. d

the only issue i have heard of the avanza, is its fuel in-efficiency, at least for the 1.5 AT.. officemate claims to struggle to do 7 km/li in the city.

Well i guess fuel efficiency is another issue but not a factory defect unlike the powershift dct which seems like a headache when one encounters it.

Avanza 1.5 AT is my next option. Probably a better driving habit can improve gas mileage.

**e2romo** · June 12th, 2014 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by dandang

So has the issue of the automatic transmission been resolved? Now i am having second thoughts about the trend a/t baka mag toyota avanza na lang ako. In avanza i have not heard of any problems or is there?

Not yet, they're still working in perfecting the Powershift technology. I would stay away on any of their Powershift variant until there's an official confirmation from a trusted auto review magazine saying Ford has perfected the technology.

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**cktlcmd** · June 12th, 2014 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by dandang

In avanza i have not heard of any problems or is there?

I read here in Tsikot in the Avanza Forums before they redesigned the Avanza, that it has NO SIDE IMPACT BEAMS... so the separation between you and the other cars are a thin sheet of metal... I don't know if this is true with today's model though.

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**dandang** · June 12th, 2014 09:05 PM

Reading from ford club forums philipplines, it seems the sound is normal being a different technology from the conventional AT.

**AG4** · June 12th, 2014 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by cktlcmd

I read here in Tsikot in the Avanza Forums before they redesigned the Avanza, that it has NO SIDE IMPACT BEAMS... so the separation between you and the other cars are a thin sheet of metal... I don't know if this is true with today's model though.
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I think the Avanza has side impact beams sandwiched somewhere in those skinny doors. :P
Like the Wigo, the Avanza (Daihatsu Xenia) is an "affordable" product by PT Astra Daihatsu Motor Indonesia. I've ridden in an Avanza taxi and the first thing I noticed were the light flimsy feeling doors, so-so NVH, and of course the body roll of the vehicle.
I checked out the higher trim Avanza and it really feels like a cheaper vehicle than the EcoSport, I wasn't surprised really since the Avanza is marketed as a small AUV.

The EcoSport was developed to different standards since it was going to be marketed in countries with stricter safety standards (its a near-global vehicle). Although Ford in Brazil headed the development of the EcoSport (B-segment crossovers SUVs are very popular in Brazil), they had input from other branches of Ford.

**dandang** · June 14th, 2014 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by AG4

I think the Avanza has side impact beams sandwiched somewhere in those skinny doors. :P
Like the Wigo, the Avanza (Daihatsu Xenia) is an "affordable" product by PT Astra Daihatsu Motor Indonesia. I've ridden in an Avanza taxi and the first thing I noticed were the light flimsy feeling doors, so-so NVH, and of course the body roll of the vehicle.
I checked out the higher trim Avanza and it really feels like a cheaper vehicle than the EcoSport, I wasn't surprised really since the Avanza is marketed as a small AUV.

The EcoSport was developed to different standards since it was going to be marketed in countries with stricter safety standards (its a near-global vehicle). Although Ford in Brazil headed the development of the EcoSport (B-segment crossovers SUVs are very popular in Brazil), they had input from other branches of Ford.

I agree avanza has that cheap feel and the looks is really wanting. But it is the closest to the ecosport in terms of price and ride height which is my main criteria for getting a vehicle. If not only for the reported transmission problem i have no doubts that ecosport is the better choice handsdown.