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    #661
    *umi001: I have apologized for the misunderstanding on my part. I understand how some people will feel regarding this matter and I cannot blame you. Eversince I took on the dealership of Fleetguard in the Philippines, I have come under constant scrutiny and attacks from various sides. I hope that you will understand how difficult it is to handle a brand as well-known as Fleetguard.

    The reason I said that this is not the proper forum is not to offend or hide anything. There are no misdeeds here. On the contrary, I want the truth to be revealed. This can only be done with an actual visual inspection of the item in question. I hope that you can see my point on this matter. Although it is fine to discuss it in forums, it is still different to see it for yourself.

    I can understand your sentiment. I am just really passionate about this product and so, I easily get defensive on certain matters. If you hate me, that is okay. I understand why you would feel this way. If you do not want to buy from me, that is also okay because there are other dealers out there that you can obtain this product from. All I ask is that you do not hate the product. Fleetguard is a premium brand. It is designed for Heavy Duty applications and has several decades of research and development behind it. It has won several awards worldwide over the years for their products. I have personally discovered it to be superior than most filters. But then again, that is my personal opinion. It would be better to discover it for yourself.

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    #662
    We're using fleetguard filters for our IH tractor heads .. so far okay naman ..

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    #663
    Mr. Fleetguard dealer,, can you post the authorized retailer of GENUINE fleetguard filters so that most of us here in the forums will be able to buy quality genuine filters,, location and name of stores whome you could vouch as true fleetguard retailers

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    #664
    Quote Originally Posted by Fleetguard View Post
    *umi001: I have apologized for the misunderstanding on my part. I understand how some people will feel regarding this matter and I cannot blame you. Eversince I took on the dealership of Fleetguard in the Philippines, I have come under constant scrutiny and attacks from various sides. I hope that you will understand how difficult it is to handle a brand as well-known as Fleetguard.

    The reason I said that this is not the proper forum is not to offend or hide anything. There are no misdeeds here. On the contrary, I want the truth to be revealed. This can only be done with an actual visual inspection of the item in question. I hope that you can see my point on this matter. Although it is fine to discuss it in forums, it is still different to see it for yourself.

    I can understand your sentiment. I am just really passionate about this product and so, I easily get defensive on certain matters. If you hate me, that is okay. I understand why you would feel this way. If you do not want to buy from me, that is also okay because there are other dealers out there that you can obtain this product from. All I ask is that you do not hate the product. Fleetguard is a premium brand. It is designed for Heavy Duty applications and has several decades of research and development behind it. It has won several awards worldwide over the years for their products. I have personally discovered it to be superior than most filters. But then again, that is my personal opinion. It would be better to discover it for yourself.
    Just to clarify, I was typing my post when you made your reply, so I wasn't able to read it before posting. As to the product and my usage (non-usage) of it, I suppose those will be the consequences of posting something on the 'Net too hastily. As the representative of a brand, it is vitally important that your words do not reflect badly on said brand - which means not posting anything in anger or haste. I don't hate you - why should I (an Internet forum discussion is hardly cause for hate), but the statement you made previously was hardly the best impression that could have been made. Nonetheless, I do wish you the best of luck in your business, particularly in stamping out these counterfeiters - this is something that would be of benefit to all of us.

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    #665
    I have posted every dealer and vendor from Luzon to Mindanao it's probably about 4 or 5 pages back.

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    #666
    A few more points. Fleetguard uses specific supliers for all their plants so there is no variation in production standards like we have seen with the cut open filters.

    Here is the full list of all the Fleetguard suppliers for every part of the filter and other parts they make.

    http://www.cumminsfiltration.com/pdf...us/gp_sqie.pdf

    The second thing is all production plants have a certificate of certification. These are the only approved Fleetguard manufacturing sites. Notice there is no TURKEY listed. As I stated before there is no plant there and any filters coming with a made in Turkey stamp do not meet Fleetguard standards.



    This all comes full circle now you see why there is always a country of Origin because only these plants are certified and can be verified and can be warrantied by Fleetguard because they meet the manufacturing standards.

    Here is the interactive link which I posted before.

    Quality Policy and Certifications

    As you can see here there is only 2 plants in China both are in Shanghai and both are certified they follow the same date codes, the same filter packing standards, the same country of origin as all the other makers.

    http://www.cumminsfiltration.com/pdf...y/china_jv.pdf
    http://www.cumminsfiltration.com/pdf.../china_cfc.pdf

    These are just the facts.

    As long as the filter has the above standards I would feel good about purchasing that filter. Because it is a fact that they have plenty of real ones in stock, It would be worth the visit if they have one that will fit your vehicle, because VIC and other lower brands just do even half as good as a job on filtering and service life as Fleetguard or Baldwin or Donaldson.

    Hopefully we will see a change since the facts are clear and known, the buyer is armed with this and can feel good about getting a high quality filter for the same as or in many cases much lower price than OEM or over the counter filters.

    I hope some Tsikot members do attend this seminar I would love to to bring up all my points but I just don't have the time. If I was still in Guam I would do it in a heartbeat.

    But if you see a filter like this PASS ON IT! This is from the other listed Fleetguard official vendor. Which makes me think Singapor is the main problem in regards to this.

    Individualy boxed with no country of origin, no item description ie. Lube filter no part number printed on the box.


    No Julian date code which is standard for Fleetguard


    Not fully sealed in plastic


    No country of origin

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    #667
    Mr. Fleetguard kindly comment? Post the date of the seminar here for everybody's perusal.
    Fasten your seatbelt! Or else... Driven To Thrill!

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    #668
    tagal naman sumagot ni Mr Fleetguard... para malinawan ang mga sumusubaybay sa mga pangyayari dahil itoy nababalot pa rin sa haka-haka at misteryo ang kasalukuyang isyu...
    Last edited by MrQ5; September 16th, 2011 at 10:53 PM. Reason: grammar

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    #669
    I don't think we will be hearing from him any time soon. From his replies he sounded more like a counter guy not a shop owner. Second the lack of knowledge about the filters is a dead give away.

    [QUOTE]Regardin the FF5116, my stock from Fleetguard also came from Turkey. As stated earlier, the filter was outsourced in Turkey. In other words, it was made by a company outside of Fleetguard but under contract with Fleetguard. Although, this plant is not owned by Fleetguard, they will ensure that the company follow oem standards.



    Yet I have shown and proved that Turkey does not make Fleetguard filters they only distribute them and that no manufacture in Turkey has the ISO/TS certification approved by Fleetguard to make their filters. This means they are not genuine and do not meet Fleetguard standards. I think the low quality of the filter proves that in itself. So how do they ensure the same quality and standards if they don't even meet the CERTIFICATION standards?? Sorry that's just not how it works.

    I could go on and on. But I think I have proven my point time and time again in regards to what is real and what are fakes.

    They still have plenty of good filters in stock as well as the other vendors I have posted just look for the key things I have posted and you will never go wrong.

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    #670
    any news on fleetguard user/handle?

    its been a while since his last post... i thought he wanted to clear some issues thats why he subscribed to this thread?

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