Remote bypass oil filtration

**locoroco777** · January 28th, 2012 07:08 PM

ahhh I see....siguro pag nag pa change oil tayo sa susunod mas maputi puti ng konti ang kulay ng langis...

ang nangyari kasi naman sakin...tinesting ko yung fake na fleetguard with TDT...hehe ngayon TDT with baldwin na...pareho tayo....

**zix888** · January 28th, 2012 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by locoroco777

ahhh I see....siguro pag nag pa change oil tayo sa susunod mas maputi puti ng konti ang kulay ng langis...

ang nangyari kasi naman sakin...tinesting ko yung fake na fleetguard with TDT...hehe ngayon TDT with baldwin na...pareho tayo....

Okay sige update na lang kung mag improve ang color

**miko101130** · January 28th, 2012 09:24 PM

ganun ata talaga pag diesel eh.. na observe ko kasi sa everest namin ganyan din kahit fleetguard o wix filters at kaka change oil lang.. after 1 day maitim na din agad... whereas pag sa gasoline naman namin na auto 1 week bago mag start mag darken,,,

**EE100shiro** · January 29th, 2012 03:14 AM

* DVLDOC what can you say about this toyota made in japan oil filter? different oil filter i've ever seen inside of toyota oil filter and Vic oil filter 90915-YZZC5 and C-110 .mpg - YouTube

**dvldoc** · January 29th, 2012 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by EE100shiro

* DVLDOC what can you say about this toyota made in japan oil filter? different oil filter i've ever seen inside of toyota oil filter and Vic oil filter 90915-YZZC5 and C-110 .mpg - YouTube

Well I do better than my opinion I give you the facts.

Those filters from Denso are made from molding a thick fiberglass material, 2-3 mm., over a stiff plastic skeleton, then some type of material is added which make is somewhat hard.

This particular filter media is pretty crappy just as bad as the VIC and considered inferior in filter testing.

The funky Toyota media is 88% efficient at 40 microns and 31% efficient at 20 microns.

The VIC C-110 is a horrible little filter as well, one of the worse bypass valves and spring designs out there. But it is 87% efficient at 40 microns and 39% efficient * 20 microns.

Now compare that to a Baldwin BT223 which is 98.6 efficient * 25 microns and 50% efficient at 12 microns.

The VIC anti drainback valve for the C-110 also show it will not hold oil which will lead to dry starts and increased wear.

Here is a closer look at that funky fiberglass resin media (not to be confused with microglass media which is excellent) The other bad thing about the Funky media of the Toyota filter pieces can break loose and clog oil passageways especially if you run them past 5000km when they will really start to break down.

This is not that particular filter but it's the exact media and has the same specs for efficiency.

Bottom line they both inferior filters.

**joeasp** · January 29th, 2012 10:03 AM

just to update my usage of BT223 for my 2 corollas (2E). Originally, I am Vic C110 user and Petron MO40 for 5000km. Before, the oil starts to darken after 2000km and eventually turns darker until it reaches 5000km. BTW, forgot to mention that these are taxicabs.

Now the car is running 3000km and the oil condition is still like 1500km. I can say this observations because I check the oil daily because the car runs 300-350kms a day.

I very happy to have bought and installed Baldwin 223 for just a PHP65 price difference against the Vic C110. I can't wait to install those BD28 that I also bought for my Starex and Adventure and see the improvement.

**Ry_Tower** · January 29th, 2012 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by joeasp

just to update my usage of BT223 for my 2 corollas (2E). Originally, I am Vic C110 user and Petron MO40 for 5000km. Before, the oil starts to darken after 2000km and eventually turns darker until it reaches 5000km. BTW, forgot to mention that these are taxicabs.

Now the car is running 3000km and the oil condition is still like 1500km. I can say this observations because I check the oil daily because the car runs 300-350kms a day.

I very happy to have bought and installed Baldwin 223 for just a PHP65 price difference against the Vic C110. I can't wait to install those BD28 that I also bought for my Starex and Adventure and see the improvement.

Excellent remarks sir, hope to keep us posted. If only there is an oil analysis lab in my place I would really pay just to check the specs at the 5,000kms mark.

**EE100shiro** · January 29th, 2012 11:26 AM

i trust a made in japan products,

**dvldoc** · January 29th, 2012 12:18 PM

I wouldn't VIC is a poor quality filter all around, it's the Fram of Japan. Not all Toyota factory filters are bad but most for gas engines are lower quality than something like a Bosch or Purolator and have a much lower efficiency rating.

**dvldoc** · January 29th, 2012 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by joeasp

just to update my usage of BT223 for my 2 corollas (2E). Originally, I am Vic C110 user and Petron MO40 for 5000km. Before, the oil starts to darken after 2000km and eventually turns darker until it reaches 5000km. BTW, forgot to mention that these are taxicabs.

Now the car is running 3000km and the oil condition is still like 1500km. I can say this observations because I check the oil daily because the car runs 300-350kms a day.

I very happy to have bought and installed Baldwin 223 for just a PHP65 price difference against the Vic C110. I can't wait to install those BD28 that I also bought for my Starex and Adventure and see the improvement.

Glad you found the thread, The reason your seeing much cleaner oil is the difference in efficiency the Baldwin is 50% efficient at 12 microns and about 30% at 5 microns. Vic on the other hand is around 5% efficient at 12 microns so I simply cannot keep your oil as clean as the Badwin.

For a service vehicle with a lot of stop and go you I would go at least 8000klm, If you have a service vehicle do the oil analysis and see the status of your oil at 8000klm and you will not only know if you can go ever further on that oil but the condition of your motor. Which is something I would want to check if I had been running a VIC for so long.