2014 Chevrolet Trailblazer 4x2 AT

[arsen]

I'm the president of the Trailblazer Club of the Philippines, and it is my job to answer back to TB bashers like you. To defend the TB.

So you are the president of the club. Akala ko salesman ka ng TB. hahaha.

As president, you should defend your members instead of your ego or new idols.

If you are open-minded as what you are trying to imply, why not ask for written declaration/assurance from your friendly dealer kahit para sa inyong mga members lang.
1. That 1st gen TBs are not using surplus base engine parts (cylinder head/blocks, etc) inventories from Europe.
2. That cylinderhead/block has no known serial defect like crack.
3. That should crack occur, parts will be replaced with additional/extended warranty for the engine. (Or engine assembly itself upgrade to dura2..... Heheh)

Better sure di ba?

To say that our TBs aren't as durable and reliable as its Japanese competitors is totally wrong.

Even GM is cautious regarding the reliability by waiting 3 years (year 2016) of in-use before introducing a product to North America where consumers are protected by lemon law and serial defect is a very big deal. Yet there you are declaring like you see the future 2-3years from now or have seen 90% of vehicle in-use clocking over 100,00miles.

Why would General Motors launch it with the developing world (3rd world), with the 3rd world's notoriously dirty diesel fuel, in mind if it knows that the VM Motori engines that powers it will fail at around 150,000 kms as you have been claiming? And by the way, the 2.8L VM Motori engine will also power the North American version of the Colorado this 2016.

Profit! and to have a drive system test together with less protected/willing/open-minded test subjects like you.

See.... hindi ka nga naka feel being betrayed by your new brand kahit na yung binenta pala sa iyo na engine ay meron na pala nakalinya na mas bago in 2years time lang. So paano pala yan nakatali na sa casa ang 1st gen owners. Paano na resale value nyo nyan eh kakaunti lang kayo at halos unique ang engine ninyong mga 1st gen.

RA428 is having serious issue at 100,000kms according to the link to the other forum that I posted.

150,000kms is lifetime in Europe cities. I mentioned as reaction to your European diesel>Japanese diesel. I did not single out your TB.

I'm no expert when it comes to the technicality of engines, but I have basic knowledge when it comes to properly maintaining the engine and its components. So to tell me in one of your previous posts na wala ring kwenta na bantayan ko sasakyan ko while it's having its PMS at the dealer or whatever car repair shop because hindi ko alam kung ano ang dapat gagawin, is totally absurd.

These are your words.....
"I already owned and currently own the Fortuner, Montero and the Trailblazer. The Fortuner didn't even last with more than 70,000 kms with us. Hanggang 66,000 kms lang, sold it because it lost its power. It was properly maintained by Toyota at bantay na bantay ko pa noon."

Sold it (Fortuner) because it lost its power. So you mean di na fix ang issue or yung performance was not put back on track kaya mo nabenta. Tapos sabihin mo na may alam ka sa maintaining ng engine at bantay na bantay mo pa talaga ha. Ano ba definition/alam mo na maintenance ng engine? Change oil and filters? Thats all?

Filipino seamen can attest that no matter how dirty looking the bunker fuel their ship is using, a load of bad/dirtier bunker fuel also exist that can cut their journey short and bring their spanking new ship to the yard for unscheduled maintenance/ parts replacement.

You should leave your comfort zone. Have an open mind that the TB, with its VM Motori engines, can be as durable and as reliable as its Japanese competitors.

It's really nonsense to argue with someone who is closed and narrow minded.

My comfort zone is above the futon and below the comforter with HVAC set to 26degC during winter and 22degC during summer. I am sitting while doing all these at pinagtatyagaan ko na saguting itong mga arguements. As far as I know I am leaving my comfort zone already. Hahaha.

Im done. I'll be back on my comfortable zone. Ganbatte mr president.

[numbah5]

But still, why haven't you answered niky's reply to you? And why attack me?

You are getting out of topic here

[strawhat]

OT
nakakatuwa talaga magbasa dito

[niky]

RA428 is having serious issue at 100,000kms according to the link to the other forum that I posted.

And there are no users with problems at over 200,000kms, according to other forums.

And there are users of Japanese diesels who experience problems at under 100,000kms, according to some forumers, and other users who experience no issues over 200,000kkms.

So what's the point of bringing up isolated anecdotes?

150,000kms is lifetime in Europe cities.

Assumed.

Assumed.

Assumed.

For lifecycle carbon/pollution computation purposes.

Pero since mahilig ka sa link:

Ayun oh! Prius, 150,000 kilometers lang!
http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/cd...nvironment.pdf

Sorry, what were we talking about, again?

Want to "help" people, provide links to issues regarding the current RA428 motors found in TBs, and bring up genuine issues, not some conspiracy-theory laden idea that all European cars are built to self destruct at 150,000 kms.

[arsen]

Assumed.

Assumed.

Assumed.

For lifecycle carbon/pollution computation purposes.

Pero since mahilig ka sa link:

Ayun oh! Prius, 150,000 kilometers lang!
http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/cd...nvironment.pdf

Sorry, what were we talking about, again?

Nagkaroon ng diesel boom in Europe to create market for medium distillates after France became nuke powered and entire Europe shifted to natural gas.
http://www.enveurope.com/content/pdf...4715-25-15.pdf

Now with over 240 million vehicles in Europe and 35 percent is Diesel, imagine the environmental impact especially the acid rain creating NOx.

There is a 2020 vision, technology roadmap, Low Carbon Vehicle Partnership forcing a shift to hybrid, PHEV and EV vehicles.

http://www.lowcvp.org.uk/assets/repo...l%20Report.pdf

Green technology option is no match with fossils when it comes to cost and durability, so authorities are doing the following:

1. Adding expensive after treatment and sophisticated technologies which jack up the cost to meet half-way with hybrids.
2. Shorted lifetime of 150,000km for diesel to meet halfway with shorter life of hybrids.

*Numbah
European diesel > Japanese diesel?

In terms of power:
In Europe maybe yes

Interms of durability and serviceability:
In the Philippines and Asia? Hmm

I repost the above in case you are still not wondering why every OEM, technology provider, technical writer, researcher in Europe happen to:
Assumed
Assumed
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a look like an arbitrary but a common value of 150,000kms lifetime in Europe.

I am talking about:

1. The current design norm and future diesel lifetime in Europe.
2. The European tech 5-8 squirter high power diesel engines that we now have is not better than market specific with parts provisions Japanese tech in terms of long term use in PH.
3. And why "European diesel>Japanese diesel" is not true without considering the intended market and service/in-use conditions.

[ClaNker]

^ Create ka ng thread at dun ka mag debate.

Balik tayo sa Trailblazer.

Owners and future buyers post away.

[ChevyOne]

^ Yup I agree, enough with the bullshit talks. Kung gusto mo MAG MARUNONG gumawa ka thread mo at dun ka MAG MAGALING. Okay? Saka ano ka ba talaga, engineer? If engineer ka and your working here in PH for a Japanese Automobile Company or any Automobile Company then I presume that you're only a technician or plant operator or sales representative or pwede din taga sira ng ibang company (LOL) since wala naman engineer dito sa Pinas sa automobile industry na talagang engineer. So tama na pag-panggap at pag halungkat mo sa internet sa mga ka leche-han mo. Gumawa ka thread mo at wag ka dito!

[rsa527]

OT question: Bagay ba yung ltz rims ng colorado sa tb natin? (sorry if this is way out of topic)

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[niky]

a common value of 150,000kms lifetime in Europe.

Assumed.

For purposes of calculation. That is all. That is the mean time that first owners will keep their cars before selling on. (and if you look at UK classifieds, you'll see that many people actually keep the cars for at least 200k kms before selling on) That is not the lifetime of the vehicle itself. Period.

I am talking about:

1. The current design norm and future diesel lifetime in Europe.
2. The European tech 5-8 squirter high power diesel engines that we now have is not better than market specific with parts provisions Japanese tech in terms of long term use in PH.
3. And why "European diesel>Japanese diesel" is not true without considering the intended market and service/in-use conditions.

1. Prove it.

2. Prove it.

3. This, I agree with, as it depends greatly on the specific engine, but it still needs proof.

[arsen]

Assumed.

For purposes of calculation. That is all. That is the mean time that first owners will keep their cars before selling on. (and if you look at UK classifieds, you'll see that many people actually keep the cars for at least 200k kms before selling on) That is not the lifetime of the vehicle itself. Period.



1. Prove it.

2. Prove it.

3. This, I agree with, as it depends greatly on the specific engine, but it still needs proof.

Its more on MTBF value. The more components involved jacking up the reconditioning cost the more dramatic is the SWITCH.

Yes its for the purpose of calculation because designing is selecting and calculating to meet targets/ intended purpose either for good or evil use. Period.

2016 and 2021 are the reckoning years...
We do some portion of the plan so somehow I know.

Proof will just pop-up.
Just sit back and relax for now....
Mabilis lang naman lilipas ang mga taon. Wag masyadong gigil....heheh