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  1. Join Date
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    #21
    this is where the money is invested

    pero syempre the bank no longer needs to explain the details to the client

    all the client cares about is how much he'll earn

    Money market instruments are securities that provide businesses, banks, and the government with large amounts of low-cost capital for a short time. The period is overnight or a few days, weeks, or even months, but always less than a year.
    Without money market instruments, companies would have to wait until payments were received for goods already sold. That would delay the purchases of the raw goods and slow down the manufacturing of the finished product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Seriously, okay naman yan kags. Fixed return. Pag wala kang paggaamitan ng milyones mo, at least may quarterly kita ka jan. Treat mo ko sa shake shack ha.

    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    baka ung bangko di nalang sinabi kay kagalingan ano talaga tawag dun sa investment kasi "laymen wouldn't understand"

    when a "placement" is not covered by PDIC that means it's no longer a deposit

    like if you withdraw money from savings account to invest in a corporate bond, nasa labas na ng PDIC yan

    you're now at the mercy of the corporation you lent your money to

    busy busy ang metrobank doon sa 18months 4% net. Ito nasa ads sa website ni metrobank, talaga niyayabang,

    ito bdo inofferan ako dahil nagwithdraw kasi ako pera tapos tinaong ako ng assistang branch manager ata yun "bakit ang laki naman saan mo gagamitin" = sabi ko ipasok ko sa metrobank may offer sa akin. Sabay counter meron din kami 3% net and short term. So ayun kinabakusan napatry ako.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    busy busy ang metrobank doon sa 18months 4% net. Ito nasa ads sa website ni metrobank, talaga niyayabang,

    ito bdo inofferan ako dahil nagwithdraw kasi ako pera tapos tinaong ako ng assistang branch manager ata yun "bakit ang laki naman saan mo gagamitin" = sabi ko ipasok ko sa metrobank may offer sa akin. Sabay counter meron din kami 3% net and short term. So ayun kinabakusan napatry ako.
    Try mo security bank. Mas malaki return. 5% to 6%, net. long term (5 years).

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    maganda pagka-explain. MAs prioritized ang utang kaysa mga stockholders.

    Philippine bonds for beginners: Everything you need to know about this low-risk long-term investment

    Investments are a great way to increase your sources of income. Investments like stocks and mutual funds are popular investment options that many finance-savvy Filipinos are adding to their portfolio. While there is always some amount of risk in investing, many find the chance of getting higher returns as worth the risk.

    But it’s that same risk that makes many other Filipinos hesitant about investing. After all, when you have a family to look after, or a financial goal to aim for, you don’t want to put these on the line for income that isn’t a hundred percent guaranteed.

    Many Filipinos may not know about Philippine Bonds, which are one of the safest investment instruments in the financial markets. If you’re interested in low-risk but high-return investments, here’s a guide to bond investments and why it may be the best investment option for the shrewd investor who wants to play it safe.

    What are bonds?
    Bonds are a passive investment asset. It serves as proof that its issuer (either the government or a private corporation) has borrowed money from you and they will pay you what you’re owed plus periodic interest payments over the period indicated on your bonds’ terms.

    Let’s say that the government has an infrastructure project that will cost them 50 billion pesos. After the government exercises all their possible options for funding, they may find that they’re still short of 5 billion pesos. One solution is to issue multiple bonds totaling to that amount, but promising to pay it back after several years plus interest.

    Individuals, organizations, and even foreign governments can buy these bonds in exchange for the money the government needs, and will be known as creditors or debt-holders. After the specified bond tenor has passed, the bond matures, and creditors can claim their debt plus the interest that they’re entitled to.

    Types of bonds
    Bonds in the Philippines can be classified into two: government bonds and corporate bonds.

    Government bonds,also known as sovereign bonds, are either placed up for auction with institutions that have the capacity to distribute it further to the retail investors, or sold directly to the general public.

    Corporate bonds are those issued by private corporations listed on the stock exchange. Corporations may issue bonds to investors to expand their business or sustain their operations.

    Bond investment risks

    Compared to investments like stocks and mutual funds where you risk incurring a loss depending on market conditions, sovereign bonds are considered as relatively risk-free, as the risk of the government defaulting is relatively low.

    With the country’s steady economic growth, it’s unlikely that the Philippine government would be unable to pay its bonds when the time comes.

    However, take note that this isn’t an investment that guarantees 100% safety from risk. Major events like a revolution or a country defaulting due to its huge foreign debt is possible. However, this is unlikely to happen in the Philippines where growth is relatively stable.

    As for corporate bonds, if the issuing company ever goes bankrupt, it will be liquidated to pay off any remaining debt. Because bonds are considered debt, holders of its corporate bonds will be prioritized – even put ahead of those holding its stocks
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    Advantages of buying bonds in the Philippines
    Relatively less risk- Whether you buy Philippine sovereign bonds or corporate bonds, it is a relatively safer option, because it is much less volatile compared to other forms of investments that can fluctuate depending on the market trends.

    Portfolio diversification
    - As the saying goes, don’t put all your eggs in one basket. If you’re planning on investing in multiple investment products, the low-risk features of bonds can offset potential losses that high-risk investments may incur.

    Fixed income- Depending on the type of bonds you buy, interest can be paid periodically, giving you fixed passive income on top of your other sources of income or revenue.

    Better interest income- Other low-risk, interest-based options like savings accounts and time deposits offer lower interest rates. The income you receive from bonds is much higher compared to the other two.

    Disadvantages of buying bonds

    There is still risk of defaul As mentioned earlier, buying bonds is not 100% risk-free. It’s unlikely that the Philippines may undergo a scenario wherein economic growth suddenly plummets and it defaults due to its debts, but the chance of it happening exists, albeit being remote at this point. As for corporate bonds, creditors are prioritized over stockholders, but that doesn’t guarantee that you’ll be paid in full depending on the corporation’s amount of debt upon liquidation.

    Opportunity costs- Bonds are the relatively safer option, but there’s no guarantee that it will do better than the high-risk, high-reward investments. In many cases, the gamble investors take on stocks can greatly pay off. For bonds, the smaller profits (interest payments) are steadier as committed by the issuer. Typically in normal markets, stocks generally perform better in the long run. But in case of a recession or a decline in the market, bonds are the better option for those who want to play it safe.

    How do bonds work?
    To start investing, you will need a tax identification number (all profits from your bonds are subject to 20% tax), a bank account, and at least P10,000 in capital to buy bonds. You can buy bonds through different means:

    Directly from the Bureau of Treasury’s authorized selling agents (you can find announcements of new bond offerings within the business sections of newspapers when they are issued or announced)

    Through brokers in the secondary market (this will entail additional brokerage fees on top of your withholding tax)

    Bond funds. These aren’t exactly bonds, but pooled investment funds by authorized financial institutions and companies. Your profits come from bond investments, where the investors’ pooled money was invested in. Examples of these funds include mutual funds and unit investment trust funds.

    Should I invest in bonds?
    Bonds are the best choice for conservative Filipinos who want safe investments, as opposed to taking a gamble on the stock market. Bonds are not directly affected by the highs and lows of the stock market, so it’s less likely that you will incur losses. It is the better option for people who prefer the predictable passive income from the periodic interest that their bonds receive. This makes it a good investment option for.

    First-time investors who want to start safe
    Investors looking to add safe long-term options to offset their riskier investments
    People who want periodic income to help their household’s expenses
    Retired individuals who want additional periodic income
    Contact your Investment Specialist or Relationship Manager to invest today.

    Philippine bonds for beginners: Everything you need to know about this low-risk long-term investment | Metrobank

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Try mo security bank. Mas malaki return. 5% to 6%, net. long term (5 years).

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    Boss, PM [emoji28]

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    #26
    of course

    ganyan naman all over the world

    mas mataas ang bondholder kesa shareholder

    when a company goes bankrupt, una ma-wipe out are those who own stock

    the price goes to zero

    bondholders can claw back money from liquidation of the company's assets

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    that was not explained to you.
    you down-loaded that from the company infomercial.
    heh heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    gusto mo kumita nang malaki sa bonds?

    maghanap ka ng bonds sa secondary market

    look for bonds that are trading below par (meaning trading below 100)

    bigyan kita example:

    during the eurozone sovereign debt crisis, the country most likely to default was Greece

    Greek bonds fell to 50 (meaning 50 cents per euro) or even lower

    if the bond's par value is 100K euro, you can buy the bond at 50K

    when the bond matures you will get paid 100K plus interest earnings

    pero syempre dahil malaki chance mag default ang Greece nakakatakot bilhin (which is why the price fell so much)

    but there are brave investors who bought the bonds coz they were betting the EU will not let Greece default and the bet paid off

    laki ng kinita nila

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    right now, in the secondary market there are many corporate bonds trading below par

    meron pa nga 70 and below

    The amount of emerging market corporate bonds that currently trade at distressed levels of less than 70 cents on the dollar remained close to record highs at $185 billion or nearly a quarter of the high-yield segment of the asset class, more than three times where it stood at the start of the year.


    if you're brave you can make a lot of money

    ayan ha libre education
    Last edited by uls; October 14th, 2022 at 05:54 PM.

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Mask Rider Blac View Post
    Investment Management Account. Hindi yan time deposit. Product yan ng Trust Banking Group. Parang selling agent lang si bank/branch. Hindi yan covered ng PDIC kasi hindi yan deposit product...maganda siguro ung agent.

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    You sound like a banker. Sana you would post more

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Boss, PM [emoji28]
    Eto bro. 1 offer -


    Good morning. Peso Nitro Placement with Quarterly payouts already launched last week.


    Here are the details:
    Minimum: PHP 1,000,000
    Guaranteed Life Insurance coverage: PHP 1,250,000
    Term: 5 Years
    Quarterly Payout

    Estimated Computation for PHP 1,000,000 placement (for 40yr old, Male)

    Q1 Payout = PHP 14,500
    Q2 Payout = PHP 14,500
    Q3 Payout = PHP 14,500
    Q4 Payout = PHP 14,500

    This placement is tax exempt.

    Let me know if you are interested.

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