HID problem on my reflector halogen..

[170kphlang]

Gaya nag nasabi ko, hindi mo nakikita ang minamaneho ko kaya huwag kang maghusga.

pagpasensiyahan niyo na mga ka-tsikot, mas madali pa ipaunawa sa isang bata yung punto natin kaysa sa isang ito. simpleng word na "regardless" di parin na-gets.. or baka dahil english yun?

[confused shoes]

pagpasensiyahan niyo na mga ka-tsikot, mas madali pa ipaunawa sa isang bata yung punto natin kaysa sa isang ito. simpleng word na "regardless" di parin na-gets.. or baka dahil english yun?

Ang tanong lang naman ni TS ay kung masusunog nga ba ang reflector nya pag lalagyan nya ng H4 HID. Ang sagot ko hindi kasi natry ko na. Ewan sa inyo sa inyo bakit ako ang sinasagot nyo di naman ako nagtatanong. Humaba tuloy ang thead OT naman.

Sorry, mods.

[Chikselog]

Hehe. Nakakatuwang thread.

Truth hurts?

[greatauror28]

Things I learned from this thread:

1. Philips and Osram have products that are not displayed in their website.
2. Philips (and Osram?) have HID bulbs that can be fitted into reflector housings.
3. You can do illegal (non-conformist) things because you're just in the Philippines.
4. There are really some people who don't give a sh*t about others just because.
5. Some people think that a mindset of the majority cannot be truly correct and must be challenged even if the facts are slapping them in the face.
6. Threads can go on for 10 pages or more bickering about glaring lights without a single picture to truly judge the premise.

[beni23]

Wag na kayo kumontra! Tama yan confused! Makapagpainstall nga ng PNP HID sa sasakyan ko bukas!!! Pati na rin sa brake lights, signal lights at reverse lights!


#Retzing

[confused shoes]

Wag na kayo kumontra! Tama yan confused! Makapagpainstall nga ng PNP HID sa sasakyan ko bukas!!! Pati na rin sa brake lights, signal lights at reverse lights!


#Retzing

Ok boss, balitaan mo kami.

[garyq]

Lets keep the discussion objective and walang personalan. We need to discuss based on science and facts para people browsing this forum can learn from it.

original question was bakit parang merong "nasunog" (not a techinical term, hehe) after the installation of plug and play HIDs inside an H4 halogen headlamps. ano ba nag cause neto? I think dun nagsimula, tama ba? correct me if I am wrong.

naku baka maging mahaba eto. anyway we really don't know kasi hindi naman natin nakita yung headlight sa actual, picture lang and marami pwedeng mag cause neto. Based on experience pwede yung hid system or even a mfg defect on the headlight, especially kung aftermarket. To the thread starter, ilan months naba naka kabit yung HID?

it might be the hid syst: some cheap HID kits or what we can call plug and play HIDs have spotty quality built into them. Very normal for this cheap hids to malfunction in less than a year. One concern they have and I think it might be related to this is the fact that they dont give out the claimed wattage. Kung 35w yung bulb/ballasts combo lumaabas more than that. minsan mas mababa naman. Another thing is with the UV coating they receive. Many of this cheap bulbs dont even have it or sobrang pangit na quality of UV coating which can attack plastics kasi the light source will produce UV.

My guess is that it is a combination of hid system and the headlamps itself. Some headlamps will not be affected by HIDS or even high wattage halogen lamps while others will get burnt easily. Ano ba yung headlamp na naka post ni thread starter coz I might be able to comment on that.

Along the way, na discuss yung glare produced by HIDs. Ok it wil produce glare I am sure but different headlamps will produce different amounts of glare with HIDs on them. Some of the bad ones, Gen1 Fortuner, Jazz GD and GE, Innova, etc. Some headlamps will produce less but it will still produce glare because the 3x more light generated by the HID has to go somewhere. Some people will lower the height of the cutoff to reduce the glare but this defeats the purpose of having better lighting than can illuminate further down the road.

Here are some pictures I made way back 2009 comparing stock halogen bulbs and PNP hids.

Upgrading Your Lighting System | HID Retrofit

The picture will speak for itself.

You can also see here glare produced by a Honda Civic EG with PNP hids



eto front view and you can see light scattering above the cutoff



this is an output of an HID headlamp with hid reflectors, RHD Japanese, just sharing, took this picture while experimenting, just to show meron mga HIDs on reflector type housing built for HIDs like Forester, Civic 2.0 and Altis 2.0



Civic headlight with PNP hids and you can see the glare above the cutoff:



Halogen headlights are designed for halogen bulbs. Matagal kasi explain diffence ng halogen sa HID so wiki na lang. From output to positioning of the electrodes, etc, Iba talaga. You cannot maximize the output of an HID bulb if it's installed on a halogen housing. As mentioned, the glare varies of you install pnp hids.

Na mention din Philips kit na pwede sa halogen headlamps. Meron siguro kasi nandun nga sa website. I am not sure if it's road legal though kasi baka export lang yun and also I am sure nothing comes out of the U.S or European Union coz bawal talaga yung pnp hids on halogen housing dun. Saw this 'Philips' kit rin sa Singapore website but the fact remains wala naman sa atin nakapag try kung walang glare if it's installed to halogen housing or even the performance of this kits. Technically you can lessen the upper glare above the cutoff but nothing compared to the output of HID projectors.

I started retrofitting because I want better lighting system for my old hatch without glaring other motorist. I also try to be a responsible motorist and can you imagine if we all drive responsibly? ang ganda siguro ng Manila. Walang counterflow, alam natin ibig sabihin ng X sa intersection (hindi ibig sabihin nun meron buried treasure ok? and you are free to camp out sa gitna, keep it open, pag walang exit, dont enter, hehe), we use add ons/upgrades to our car responsibly, i.e we dont affect negatively the rights of others as motorists and courteous at marunong magbigay lahat eh di ang ganda ng Pilipinas.

So there you go, napuyat ako coz of this, hehe. Can you imagine someone texted me kasi meron daw spirited discussion sa tsikot? bihira yun ha mabuhay kayo lahat especially to all responsible Filipino motorists!

[SiRbossR]

sa dami na ng nagtanong at nasupalpal sa mga threads na tulad nito about PnP HIDs, nakakapagod na makipagtalo sa mga makikitid ang brain.

Pagod narin siguro si garyq sa kakaexplain at kakatype tulad nung nasa itaas para lang maintindihan ng mga mahihina ang brain.

[D3nb3r]

Yun oh... nag comment na rin si sir gary kala konga di nya na mapapansin yung thread dahil i know he is a busy guy. People just need to educate them selves before using HID's. you might think that you look cool on you HID bulb on a non projector housing, but the question is.... ilang tao na kaya ang naka salubong mo na napamura dahil sa glare nang non-projector HID headlight?

[testament11]

Kasi marami sa atin parang mga kabayo. May piring ang mata. Derecho lang ang tingin. Akala nila walang ibang daan.

Hindi ba parang ganyan din ang pinapakita mo dito ngayon?