E10 Ethanol, bad for your engine & economy? [MERGED]

[littlebadboy]

Shell's E10 is P39.20 when i tried it yesterday. Shell's super unleaded is P39.7+. Both are octane 93.

Engine runs a bit better, but consumes more fuel.

I hope I was of help.

[Mguy]

That's it.

I'm not going to buy e10 anymore. It is totally impractical. I used 1/4 of my tank and I only got 100kms wherein usually I would get to 160kms with unleaded.

[rayban7g]

medyo OT: basta ako. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .


















. . . . . . . . . . . . . TECHRON!!. . . .hehehe!! ..bias ba?!? hahaha!!

[Jayo]

That's it.

I'm not going to buy e10 anymore. It is totally impractical. I used 1/4 of my tank and I only got 100kms wherein usually I would get to 160kms with unleaded.

That's what you'd expect by taking out 10% fuel and replacing it with "oxygen" in the form of alcohol (ethanol). The 10% alcohol is also fuel but has less energy output than the gasoline it replaced. E10 is oxygenated fuel meant to reduce emissions and save the environment same reason for biodiesel, and of course to save on $$ reserve, less dependency of imported oil, to help our farmers by growing our fuel, renewable source, etc.

[mazdamazda]

That's what you'd expect by taking out 10% fuel and replacing it with "oxygen" in the form of alcohol (ethanol). The 10% alcohol is also fuel but has less energy output than the gasoline it replaced. E10 is oxygenated fuel meant to reduce emissions and save the environment same reason for biodiesel, and of course to save on $$ reserve, less dependency of imported oil, to help our farmers by growing our fuel, renewable source, etc.

hmmm... sobrang drastic naman ng fuel consumption...

when I was using SeaOil's E10 before, halos pareho lang ang fuel consumption ko.

[enegue]

I think ethanol mix fuel is quite expensive since we are still importing it to other countries. Since they are still introducing in this country and maybe Shell still experementing if there really a market for this kind fuel in our country.
Our government should act to pass some laws and encourage local industries to built ethanol plant here, we have all the raw material ( sugar cane, cassava, corn and etc)

In Brazil and Australia they are already using 20% mixture in there gasoline.

[Jayo]

hmmm... sobrang drastic naman ng fuel consumption...

when I was using SeaOil's E10 before, halos pareho lang ang fuel consumption ko.

Tama M2 sobra ganitong fuel consumption difference. I just wanted to impart that E10 has less energy compared to pure unleaded. You may not even notice the difference in consumption or acceleration/power.

[Jayo]

Alcohol will raise the octane rating of gasoline, but at the expense of fuel economy. I've seen both ethanol and methanol used to dilute gasoline. Ethanol used to be employed in concentrations as high as 10 percent to formulate oxygenated fuel. ......as high as 0.3 percent are acceptable, and specifically permitted by most of the car manufacturers. Higher concentrations in vehicles not designed for alcohol can cause corrosion of metal parts wetted by fuel--things like the inside of the tank and the lines, and the pintle valve in the injectors. High concentrations of alcohol also can make non-alcohol-rated plastic parts turn to Jell-O in a few months.

Taken from this site. http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...c/2240212.html

[buknoy2002]

hmmm... sobrang drastic naman ng fuel consumption...

when I was using SeaOil's E10 before, halos pareho lang ang fuel consumption ko.

M2,

di kya may effect yng octane rating? ang alam ko ang seaoil e10 unleaded e 95octane.

while me post sa taas na shell e10 has 93octane?

[theveed]

duda ako sa claim ng seaoil... unless they started with 96oct or so...