Auto-LPG Conversion Thread

[Mile2]

Thanks to GreenFuel for the aftersales call this morning, right away I headed to their shop and they've done everything to solve my problem. Right now my ride is running okay no more stalling, even when I do hard turns and braking, though I feel some noticeable power loss on acceleration and uphill. For now this is okay and shall wait for your incoming new parts to upgrade my injection rail to bigger coils.

Truly appreciate all your efforts in giving "honest to goodness customer satisfaction". Thumbs up to team GreenFuel

[n5110]

I just had my first full tank last monday para ma obserbahan ang FC ko and so far maganda resulta. im getting 8km/li assuming puno nga ng 32li yung tank ko when i have it full tank. im still monitoring my FC sana hinde magbago sa ganito.


I minus some km distance para sa morning warm ups and sometimes pag stop and go traffic I switch to petrol dahil nag ddrop ang idling pero hinde naman nag sstall ang kotse.

So far im very satisfied sa performance ng car on LPG coz hardly noticeable and pagkakaiba.

Hi Mike, Warren,
Need your additional inputs:
1.0 I did close/shut off my khaos device but i still have idling drop when coming to a stop or at full stop. what do you recommend?

2.0 Am i running too lean? because my initial FC computation is 8km/li. Note: I dont really feel any performance drop when using lpg. it is almost like petrol. the only thing is idling drops but not stalling.

3.0 maybe we need to fine tune the idling with the car on drive engage to plus aircon and not neutral plus aircon. what do you think?

Overall so far so good and observation ko. ill be going to clark next week. ill monitor my car FC once again.

Thanks to Mike, Warren and Greenfuel team, I hope we can fix my idling problem soon. Thanks.

[aamd]

Fuel Consumption as of 13 August 2008

Car:.................2004 Mitsubishi Outlander 2.4.........1998 RAV4 2.0
LPG Kit:............SGI Greenfuel..............................CATGAS Open loop
Date (2008):.....June 23 - August 10......................May 19 - July 30
Km/Liter:..........5.33.............................. .............5.65
Peso/Km:..........6.13................................. ..........5.61
% Loss:............37%.............................. .............20%
Peso Savings:.....P6,346.77............................ .......P11,787.98
% Savings :.......29.93%.................................... ..36%

Just to update you guys: as of 5 September 2008

Car:.................2004 Mitsubishi Outlander 2.4.........1998 RAV4 2.0
LPG Kit:............SGI Greenfuel..............................CATGAS Open loop
Date (2008):.....June 23 - September 3...................May 19 - September 1
Km/Liter:..........5.27.............................. .............5.62
Peso/Km:..........6.14................................. ..........5.63
% Loss:............38%.............................. .............21%
Peso Savings:.....P8,243.19............................ .......P14,211.76
% Savings :.......28.96%.................................... ..35%

Religiously, i managed to monitor my LPG consumption since day one of my LPG use.

The following parameters are used:
1. My basis of comparison is the previous km/l figure using Shell E10 Unleaded against LPG.
2. Every refill of LPG, i go full tank. Get the KM reading and reset trip A
3. Monthly, i spend 500 pesos of E10 unleaded for manually lubricating the rav4 engine. I have not monitored outlander but i am sure they are almost the same, if not lesser unleaded consumption for the outlander.
4. If you need my computations, i can send them to you in excel format.

[n5110]

*aamd. Im also monitoring my lpg usage performance vs petrol. can i have a sample of your computation baka meron akong ibang factors na hinde nacoconsider. Thanks in advance. do you have idling drop problems on the open loop?

regards

[XOOMaster]

*aamd. Im also monitoring my lpg usage performance vs petrol. can i have a sample of your computation baka meron akong ibang factors na hinde nacoconsider. Thanks in advance. do you have idling drop problems on the open loop?

regards

hello sir n5110. I think your problem on idling can be solved by tune-up. one with out load (no A/C etc.) one when the A/C, headlights etc are turned on. This should solve your rpm drops. I think the tech team of Green Fuel can help you on that.

[n5110]

hello sir n5110. I think your problem on idling can be solved by tune-up. one with out load (no A/C etc.) one when the A/C, headlights etc are turned on. This should solve your rpm drops. I think the tech team of Green Fuel can help you on that.

Hi XooMaster: thanks for the input. Im not sure if there is 2 separate idling adjustments for these conditions. ginawa lang kasi nilang idling adjustment is when i switch AC +headlights at walang adjustments for NO load. possible ba ito for emulator kits? Thanks.

[n5110]

hello sir n5110. I think your problem on idling can be solved by tune-up. one with out load (no A/C etc.) one when the A/C, headlights etc are turned on. This should solve your rpm drops. I think the tech team of Green Fuel can help you on that.

Hi XooMaster: thanks for the input. Im not sure if there is 2 separate idling adjustments for these conditions. ginawa lang kasi nilang idling adjustment is when i switch AC +headlights at walang adjustments for NO load. possible ba ito for emulator kits? Thanks.

[XOOMaster]

Hi XooMaster: thanks for the input. Im not sure if there is 2 separate idling adjustments for these conditions. ginawa lang kasi nilang idling adjustment is when i switch AC +headlights at walang adjustments for NO load. possible ba ito for emulator kits? Thanks.

hmmm..so your car was installed with an EFI kit? The best way to make adjustments is to check your exhaust readings through a gas analyzer just to check if your running rich or lean. Then tune-up the car accordingly so the mixture is just right even with or with-out load. That should solve your problems of low RPM.

[n5110]

hmmm..so your car was installed with an EFI kit? The best way to make adjustments is to check your exhaust readings through a gas analyzer just to check if your running rich or lean. Then tune-up the car accordingly so the mixture is just right even with or with-out load. That should solve your problems of low RPM.

Greenfuel call it emulator kit but not sure if this is an EFI kit. I need to check with them if they have the gas analyzer to check if im running rich or lean. Thanks a lot for the inputs.

[XOOMaster]

Greenfuel call it emulator kit but not sure if this is an EFI kit. I need to check with them if they have the gas analyzer to check if im running rich or lean. Thanks a lot for the inputs.

Hi n5110 yes emulator kit is EFI kit.