Mazda 323 Inquiry....

[pitbullz]

daming parts ang mazda. just be sure na hindi ex TAXI yun makukuha mo. mura din ang parts kasi ang dami nga naging taxi nyan. the only problem i hear from people na naka 323 is gas economy.

[pitbullz]

you also get that peace of mind

[caloyski5]

gas economy is not a problem as long as hindi a/t na familia ang kunin mo ;) im only doing 6-7km/l on my a/t

[pitbullz]

wow thats a lot of gas

[niky]

Pero kahit yung MT, acceptable lang yung consumption rather than good. That's been an eternal problem of the 323... and has even carried over to the newer Lynx (same basic engine/chassis architecture). The Lynx 1.6 MT has merely acceptable fuel consumption also.

Puwedeng ipag-yabang yung consumption dito? Just finished a full tank test, 8.56 km/l average from the Lynx RS. Listed all my trips (grabe... 427.5 km and 49.93 liters! puno yung phone memory ko!), and as far as I can break it down:

10 km/l highway (puros 120 km/h+ kasi... in cruise mode at 80 km/h, should do 11-12)

8 km/l city, with some trips at 9 km/l in light traffic.

7 km/l... stupid (high revving) driving...

That's after factoring in idling time (full AC and very hot outside) and start-up gas. If I disregard start-up gas and idling, that's merely an additional 1.7 liters.

I love manuals.

[orly_andico]

problem of the mazda's is that nahuli sila sa VVT-i.

even the mazda3 returns consistently poorer fuel mileage than the class-leading (here we go again) corolla and civic.

i guess mazda was busy toying with wankel engines kaya the best innovation they could cough up in piston engines was VRIS :P

that plus the B-series DOHC engines have a large valve angle (similar to the 4AGE, unlike the 4AFE). kaya mas malakas talaga sa fuel.

compare that to the FS which is a narrow-angle DOHC and it does get decent mileage for an engine of its size and age (very similar to the 3SFE). i'm now consistently getting 7.5/12 km/L city/highway although admittedly that city driving is 50% on C5.

[basti08]

323 Familia has the best engine sound of all 1.6's i've heard (save the Lynx)...

i had a 626 AT before, never had problems with the tranny, i got used to the shift shock mostly at when shifting to 2nd gear...after getting past that, it's a great tranny with the remarkable HOLD function... be gentle on the gas though coz it guzzles if driven otherwise.

also, Mazdas have great handling, parts not are as abundant as Toyota or Honda... its comparable to Nissan when it comes to pricing. resale sucks, but you're buying a 2nd hand car its great for 2nd hand car shoppers. resale shouldnt be a big factor in a car that has already lost alot of its cost.

[slyfox]

i used to have a mazda familia. it was the best ride i had so far. lotsa power, spacious interior and the coolest a/c so far. i had to sell it tho coz a damned rat ate my electrical wiring and sum1 just happened to come along and offer me cash on the spot. gas consumption isn't that bad. it's far from a honda city but imo better than the civic lxi. only prob i had was with the water pump and the conking out of lights in the ac/stereo panel. otherwise it's a great catch. that's why now i want a tribute hehehe

[deedoc101]

For me, I still and will always love my 96' 323 Familia. It's just so fun to drive. And I find the car very responsive. If there's anything I don't like about the car, it's the hard pedals. But nothing serious I must add. From what I noticed, my gas consumption goes for about 7-8 km/L city driving (M/T).

[mazdamazda]

1. why is it cheaper? are the parts more expensive compared to other brands?
>>> nope. comparable ang price ng parts to mitsu/nissan

2. are there surplus parts? are the parts easy to find?
>>> yup. we never had a problem with this. brand new parts can be bought from karmelcon or fordland in banawe.

3. is it a good buy? does it perform well like a lancer or a corolla?
>>> yup. just watch out for rear fender rust, busted engine support & erratic idling.