4x2 MUX or 4x2 Everest

**vinrem** · March 22nd, 2018 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by GTcervan

We had an old 1st gen everest before around a decade ago and the cost of pms for 10k kms was also 10k for that non-crdi suv. So pano magiging mas mura yun kung this time, crdi at puros new features na meron ang new everest? Kaya matatawa ka lang eh.

I also read and heard it also from other owners na mahal daw cost ng pms ng everest, but if you have the money to buy a PPV then you can afford their pms.

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**Eevie** · March 22nd, 2018 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by vinrem

I also read and heard it also from other owners na mahal daw cost ng pms ng everest, but if you have the money to buy a PPV then you can afford their pms.

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The pms prices vary depending on the casa and what you opt in or opt out of. My 10k PMS for my Everest was around P5,700+ and my 20K was around P12,900+.

**GTcervan** · March 22nd, 2018 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Eevie

The pms prices vary depending on the casa and what you opt in or opt out of. My 10k PMS for my Everest was around P5,700+ and my 20K was around P12,900+.

Oh. Mas naniniwala pako dito eh kaysa yung hindi nagbabago yung presyo ng pms pagdating ng 10k, 20k, 30k and so on kms tapos hindi ganun kataas yung price eh we all know na notorious ang ford pagdating sa ganyan.

**minicarph** · March 22nd, 2018 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by bolog

Bro, mukhang that's a good comparison. Is it just the pulling power? or the overall driving dynamics (e.g. overtaking, high speed driving, off-roading)? na lamang ang Ford?

By the way how is the PMS/maintenance cost of wildtrak? May impression prn sakin na mahal na ang maintenance and pag outside casa mahihirapan ka sa mga spare parts.

mUx PMS at 1.5T km - P3500
Mux PMS at 5k - ganun din daw pag balik ko

Ranger PMS at 5k - almost 9k ata

So san diff? Sa oil. ford only run fully synthetic, while Isuzu use regular isuzu oil

Dyan talo ng Isuzu ang Ford sa oil lang, others oil filter, air filter siguro difference of P300 mas mahal Ford

In terms of FC, I average 9.2km/liter on the Wildtrak while 12.3km/liter on the bluepower. Considering that ford uses FA oil mas matipid pa din regular oil ng Isuzu. The figures I posted are from my computer trip meter. I dont bother manual compute na since kaya nga diesel na para wala na feel feel ba para ka naka - taxi metro sa fc lol

Ang problema ko ngaun eh yun Ford Explorer ko, kasi average of 35km / 100L , that's like 3km/liter. Tsk tsk eh kasi naman sa gulong sinalpakan ko ng stock tires ng FJ Cruiser, nagka 2 inch lift ako sa rubber pa lang, Dati kasi average ako ng 16km/100L or roughly 6km/liter sa stock tires.

But I tell you these diesels today no match talaga sa Ford V6 even of yesteryears in terms of arangkadahan .

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In terms of maintenance outside warranty / casa, Ford is not expensive. In. fact mas expensive pa nga Honda . my Ford Explorer eddie bauer is one of the cheapest maintenance cars ko , tipong 3k/year or every 10Tkm .

The one that thing I noticed is even more than 10 years ago, solid ang suspension design ng mga Ford. Solid na comfy pa. Unlike with the Japs, solid nga tagtag naman .

Both my ranger and explorer, sarap sumakay and hindi takot salubak

**boylabo** · March 22nd, 2018 01:29 PM

Ford requires air filter change every 10k kms or 6 months to protect “daw” the turbo plus add ons na hindi kailangan kaya mahal. Owner can opt not to like me. Regular pms cost was around 8-9k. Pag may ibang filters like air, fuel and cabin, it would go up to 12k-16k depending sa casa. Advantage sa ford every 6 months or twice a year ka lang pupunta sa casa. Lesser abala compared sa iba na every 3 months/5k kms.

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**minicarph** · March 22nd, 2018 01:31 PM

Add ko lang Banawe has like 3 to 4 Big suppliers of Ford Parts, both genuine Motorcraft as well as Replacement American perofrmance parts like Moog and Coniseal among others. And since it's american well catalogued ang parts niya sa mga websites sa us, so easy to cross-reference part numbers sa amazon or even autozone. Pwede mo mapadala dito wait ka lang maybe a month or less.

So nothing to fear with aging Fords, and also There are like 3 or 4 Ford specialsits shops dito satin, even equipped with ford proprietary computer scanners and diagnostic equipments.

Ang galing nga nun dalawa sa FB, naibaba at nabuksan na nila makina nun original facelift Ranger. Dami kasi harabas nun older front fascia ranger, kaya madami na sira. Pero wag ka, nagagawa naman. Gone are the days that only Japs are reliable, now Ford is as splid as reliable too.

**valskie01** · March 22nd, 2018 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by vinrem

I also read and heard it also from other owners na mahal daw cost ng pms ng everest, but if you have the money to buy a PPV then you can afford their pms.

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baka yung iba sa low downpayment nila na acquired yung PPV nila. kaya sa pms mahal na at kulang na pera dahil sa monthly amortization ubos na.

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**minicarph** · March 22nd, 2018 02:30 PM

Sa nakikinita ko medyo mas madugo ang bago Fords ngaun vs sa old Ford in terms of parts. For example, I ordered a clutch fan sa banawe. They misquoted me 12k+ daw ang clutch fan, yun pala akala nun shop personnel eh naka everest ako, sabi ko explorer 2005, sa hayun 7500 lang naman clutch fan ng Explorer.

Pero nagtanong tanong naman ako ng avg clutch fan cost mitsu or even toyota sa Banawe, eh around 12k territory din so at par lang with the Ford.

So what Did I learn, since la pa nman 2 years ranger ko, di ko pa problema siguro, pero pag nagaout of warranty na , mas mahal ang mga pyesa ng mga new car models ngaun. Tsk tsk even sa Banawe na yan mapa Toyota pa yan or Ford.

So brace yourselves folks, matinde talaga ang inflation ngaun. If you gonna pay like 45k per month on installment on a new PPV, then like 40k annual insurance divide by 12 months = 3.3k mo, then avg 9k pms every half year or 1500 / month. Then LtO reg pegged at 5k per year or P400 / month .

You are looking at 45k installment + 3.3k inurance + 1.5k PMS + 400 LTO reg = P50k+ monthly cost of owning a PPV. Excluded pa dyan of course, the fuel and carwash cost.

Dapat sumweldo ka ng at least P100k a month net kasi P 50k nasa car na.

**vinrem** · March 22nd, 2018 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Eevie

The pms prices vary depending on the casa and what you opt in or opt out of. My 10k PMS for my Everest was around P5,700+ and my 20K was around P12,900+.

That's not bad, nagulat nga ako when a friend said yung 15k pms nya umabot ng almost 20k, sabi ko nga sa kanya baka daming add ons nilagay ang CASA that you can opt out naman.

Originally Posted by valskie01

baka yung iba sa low downpayment nila na acquired yung PPV nila. kaya sa pms mahal na at kulang na pera dahil sa monthly amortization ubos na.

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Maybe or baka yung iba walang idea sa mga add ons that the CASA out into the pms, they should join tsikot para marami silang matutunan hehehe

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**minicarph** · March 22nd, 2018 02:49 PM

And

Drum shell 5W-30 synthetic oil daw gamit ng ford casa, so by economies of scale laki tubo ng ford dealers in terms of change oil . Tapos gamit pa nila shell lang. eh ang recommended sa lahat ng Ford Engines genuine motorcraft, kasi tama ang timpla sa maselan na ford engine. I tried shell before sa Explorer, mas mahina hatak kaysa sa original Motorcraft Oil.

Eto din napansin ko nun di pa na PMs yun ranger, nun bago. Since new naka motorcraft oil pre-install, nun na service-an naging shell na, medyo humina hatak.

Yan nag badtrip sa casa eh, mag-dictate sila sa PMS pero substandard oil naman lalagay. Eh Shell 5w-30 sobrang general nun. pero charge ka pa nila Tipong P600 / liter eh naka-drum naman, mas okey pa bumili sa Banawe orig Motorcraft FS 5W-30 Na, tipong P400 + lang, tapos talaga naka package. Assured ka . Eh yun drum di mo malaman kung old stock o nahaluan na yun ng hindi masinop na technician.

Yan ang bad trip sa casa, para ka nagpa-install ng Windows sa Cyberzone tapos charge ka ng 2k , eh you can do it yourself sa laptop mo, customize mo pa to your prference.

Change oil di ko alam kung bakit sobrang laki ngaun tipong 9k avg ngaun. Eh ano ba nagbago sa change oil industry, pareho pa din naman since 10 years sgo, milking cow ka talaga sa casa.

Pwede nga i class action lawsuit yan ford eh, dapat orig motorcraft yan yun tipong pagka service mo sa ford casa, yun mga basyo ng oil nasa likod as proof

Eh hinde eh pati plastic ngaun pinagkakakitaan ng mga mechanic, binenbenta sa magbobote. Kaya tuloy nag-drun na lang lol