2013 AT - Montero 4x4 vs Santa Fe 4x2 vs Chevrolet Trailblazer 4x4

[bjreyesmd]

Sometimes the older engines are the most reliable because it is tried and tested. For new engines, you need a couple of years to check its reliability

[vinj]

Sometimes the older engines are the most reliable because it is tried and tested. For new engines, you need a couple of years to check its reliability

I agree here. That's also the reason why i prefer purchasing vehicles that have undergone a midlife cycle update as chances are issues that first came out are usually addressed.

[beni23]

Haha! Diyan ako bilib sa iyo chief eh, on your total reliance is the Wikipedia again, just like in TopGear PH. Nae-edit mga contents ni Wiki bosing ng kahit sino :hysterical: ....Bakit ko alam, eh dami ko na kayang na-edit at Wiki, concerning dirtbikes pa hehe....

No need to google this, dito ka kasi maki-tsismis: http://www.autoblog.com/2011/10/10/c...ickup-for-u-s/

....and you'll see it's a different VM Motori or an improved VM Motori powerplant, not the previous year 2007 400-Nm powerplant that Wiki told you so for the all-new global model Chevrolet Colorado that's headed for US (356 lb-ft or 480 Nm torque)....

Dito ka kasi ulit maki-tsismis sa mga official manufacturers website to witch-hunt, not anywhere else chief hehe ---- http://www.vmmotori.it/en/01/00/01/dettaglio.jsp?id=56

Could it be the RA428 engine, or even so, the mo-betta A428 engine, all Euro 5 emission compliant engines? Don't know, perhaps you know so.... Ask your trusted Wikipedia to provide you the info


Anyway, while you're at Wikipedia, no need to Google this as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Astron_engine

Your vaunted dinosaur-age year 1986 2.5-litre 4D56 engine started from 75 hp.... As years and 3 decades went by, it was mated with the following:

1. Non-intercooled turbo; to
2. Non-intercooled turbo 1st generation; then to
3. Non-intercooled turbo 2nd generation; then to
4. Intercooled turbo non-CRDi (water-cooled); then
5. Intercooled turbo 1st generation Di-D common-rail; then
6. Intercooled turbo 2nd generation Di-D; and most recently
7. Intercooled turbo so-called 3rd generation Di-D with VGT....

AGAIN, from 75 hp to 178 hp (2.4 times more power, or 240%), PUHUNAN ay BOOSTING, not excuses

Chief, sabi mo pala di ba, with conviction pa hehe, kaya binababaan ang compression ratio ng diesel engine para mas compliant sa emission standards, mainly CO2 kamo na, sama na ang NOx, add na rin hydrocarbons.... Bakit pala binaba na ang compression ratio ni dinosaur-age 4D56 from 21.1 : 1 then to 17.1: 1 then down to 16.5 : 1 for the past 3 decades, tinurbo-charged pati ng limpak-limpak pa, bakit mauusok pa rin?

Nakakatawa pati yung mala ratio-and-proportion mo na pinangalanan mo pang Arsen Mhikk equation sa TopGear PH na bakit 178 hp si 4D56 at 200 hp si Santa Fe.... Magandang huwag nalang patulan :hysterical:

Cheers!

May galit ka ata sa mitsubishi, siguro di ka nila tinanggap nung nagaapply ka dun as janitor no? Kawawang nilalang. Tsk.

Just to get things right, ang sinasabi mong newer engines ng ford vs mitsubishi engine eh yung 2008 ranger at 2010 everest namin pagdating ng 2500rpm eh sobrang mausok na. I know, kasi kapag tumatakbo ako ng ganun nakikita ko sa rearview mirror at naiilawan ng mga nasa likod. Versus our Strada na sinasabi mong 1986 engine eh bakit kahit pinipiga ko walang lumalabas na usok? Again, sa amin itong mga sasakyan na ito, at hindi lang sa nabasa ko to thru the internet na katulad mo. Kawawa ka talaga, wala kang friends.

And to add, idle palang ng dalawang ford namin may white smoke na while on the strada walang visible smoke. Yan ba ang 1986 engine na sinasabi mo? Eh ang dmax mo? Hahahaha

[SiRbossR]

May galit ka ata sa mitsubishi, siguro di ka nila tinanggap nung nagaapply ka dun as janitor no? Kawawang nilalang. Tsk.

Just to get things right, ang sinasabi mong newer engines ng ford vs mitsubishi engine eh yung 2008 ranger at 2010 everest namin pagdating ng 2500rpm eh sobrang mausok na. I know, kasi kapag tumatakbo ako ng ganun nakikita ko sa rearview mirror at naiilawan ng mga nasa likod. Versus our Strada na sinasabi mong 1986 engine eh bakit kahit pinipiga ko walang lumalabas na usok? Again, sa amin itong mga sasakyan na ito, at hindi lang sa nabasa ko to thru the internet na katulad mo. Kawawa ka talaga, wala kang friends.

And to add, idle palang ng dalawang ford namin may white smoke na while on the strada walang visible smoke. Yan ba ang 1986 engine na sinasabi mo? Eh ang dmax mo? Hahahaha

I think you should get your cars checked, cause im not experiencing those smoking problems with my fords and nor does the people whom i know that owns one.

[beni23]

I think you should get your cars checked, cause im not experiencing those smoking problems with my fords and nor does the people whom i know that owns one.

With regular maintenance, 5k PMS and 10k PMS. Our everest is due for 30k PMS, I will have it checked.

[d_mac]

I think you should get your cars checked, cause im not experiencing those smoking problems with my fords and nor does the people whom i know that owns one.

With regular maintenance, 5k PMS and 10k PMS. Our everest is due for 30k PMS, I will have it checked.

Nagsisinungaling lang si idol bosing Beni23.... Ang totoo mausok ang 4D56 niya na may namumulang GT-V na emblem

Hayaan mo boss Beni23, sasagutin ko yung post mo, busy lang tayo at ngaun idol ;)

Cheers!

[beni23]

Nagsisinungaling lang si idol bosing Beni23.... Ang totoo mausok ang 4D56 niya na may namumulang GT-V na emblem

Hayaan mo boss Beni23, sasagutin ko yung post mo, busy lang tayo at ngaun idol ;)

Cheers!

PANGIT MO! :hysterical:

[babynos01]

Hindi ko magets to si dmac.
Ayaw niya sa wiki tapos ginamit niya wiki para i-enumerate ung developments ng 4d56 haha.
Hay nako sir, kahit gaano katagal na makina mo, may it be based from an 80s model, kung maayos naman maintenance mo no problem. We all know this.
Hindi naman porket 80s based yung engine, e yung components hindi binabago. May remodelling yan.

Yung ix35 ng kapitbahay namin * 18K ODO may black smoke din at WOT. Its normal for diesel engines.
2006 Alterra 3.0 niya ganon din, mas evident nga lang.

Can you also explain to us if there are other methods to increase power of diesel engines aside than implementing newer turbos?
Aside from aftermarket parts syempre (chips, intake, etc.) and displacement.

[bjreyesmd]

I think not all 4D56 ay mausok. I for one has a gls-v, and initially, medyo may usok siya. When I changed to euroIV diesel nawala sya and no problems since

[renzo_d10]

Lahat naman ata ng diesel mageemit at mageemit ng black smoke pag binigla yun hataw

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