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September 23rd, 2013 09:27 AM #1Dear all,
I am buying a vehicle. I just need inputs on which cars on the narket is the most fuel efficient.
Take note, for CITY DRIVING ONLY
car must be AUTOMATIC.
accent crdi a/t
Vios 1.3e
Mirage glx cvt
City 1.3s
Will they have the same figures for city driving? Like edsa type or traffic.
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September 23rd, 2013 10:06 AM #2
Obviously, the diesel Accent would be the most cost efficient when it comes to fuel.
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September 23rd, 2013 10:33 AM #3
In city driving, the 1.3 liter engines in the Vios and the City don't seem well suited to the drag of the transmissions. Some even claim that they drink more gas than the 1.5 ATs, though when I've driven them, I found them to still be slightly more economical. It all depends on driving style. Suffice to say, they're not the most economical picks amongst your choices.
The Mirage CVT is pretty good, and it's a light car, so economy is decent even with the auto in traffic.. The Accent diesel is pretty decent, though I haven't driven it in heavy traffic, so I can't comment on city use.
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And GH makes an excellent point. With what the Mirage GLX CVT costs versus the Accent diesel, you can buy a whole crapload of gas.Last edited by niky; September 23rd, 2013 at 10:43 AM.
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September 23rd, 2013 10:18 AM #4
Most would say Accent diesel would be the best option.
But I would differ on that becuse the purchase price of the Accent diesel is P868,000.
Compare to something more affordable like the MIRAGE GLX CVT P548,000.
That is a difference of P320,000
That can buy a lot of fuel.
In fact it is enough to fill the MIRAGE's fuel tank for around four years.
So if you consider that, the MIRAGE already has a FOUR year head start on being more economical on fuel.
If we would consider the price difference between gas and diesel, then the MIRAGE would even be much more ahead in cost savings.Last edited by ghosthunter; September 23rd, 2013 at 10:22 AM.
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September 23rd, 2013 10:30 AM #6
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September 23rd, 2013 10:49 AM #7
The following will not be 100% accurate but hopefully it would show my point.
Assuming the Accent CRDi and MIRAGE CVT gets around the same fuel mileage from their respective fuels.
Gasoline = approximately P52/L
Diesel = approximately P43/L
Fuel cost difference = P9/L
Purchase price difference between Accent and Mirage = P320,000
320,000 / 9 = 35,555.56
Mirage has a 30L fuel tank.
35,555.56 / 30 = 1185.19 full tanks for the MIRAGE.
Assuming one full tank per week = 296.30 months or 24 years
The Accent CRDI would need 24 years before the PURCHASE cost difference between the Accent / Mirage would catch up with the Mirage based on fuel savings on diesel vs gasoline.
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September 23rd, 2013 11:04 AM #8
My Mirage CVT feels just a bit more efficient than my 2010 Vios 1.5G AT. Now that I experienced both, I'm more inclined to suggesting a 1.5L Vios AT. Although, the Vios 1.3L AT is indeed a bit more economical than a 1.5G AT during city traffic driving, during normal driving conditions, the 1.5L AT is still way better. That is, taken into consideration that you are travelling with passengers, with bit of highway driving where power and economy balance is important. The 1.5L is still better. Tried a real world driving (no eco style, hataw pag pwede) with a 1.3L AT convoy (with me using my 1.5G AT) to Tagaytay and the 1.3L ending up consuming almost same. With the 1.3L struggling to keep up in the inclines. I hope you get what I mean.
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September 23rd, 2013 02:46 PM #9
Same thing here. Our Mirage GLS CVT is only a bit more economical than our 2007 2nd gen Vios 1.5 4A/T with 17 inch rims. about 1 km/l in average. The Mirage and Vios 1.5 are roughly the same in fuel consumption maybe because of my driving foot. getting used to the acceleration of the Sorento R-eVGT and 1.5 vios for everyday use makes me press the accelerator pedal more on the mirage on highway driving
After a year of using the Mirage and clocked 20,000 kilometers, I can say it is a pretty good car. the features are well worth the price tag, It's easy to drive, more fun to drive than the vios (not considering the additional more horses on the 1.5) don't expect too much on the claimed fuel consumption though. even in pure highway that 21km/l is hard to achieve when you are driving at least 90kph. haha. I did achieved last night an 18.5 Km/L consumption travelling 60 kms no traffic and about 7 traffic light stops with a very very very conservative foot and 80kph speed limit haha.
Some Issues I have with the mirage:
- That Starter and Flywheel problem on the mirage which I did not yet relayed to the service. it happens like once a week where all you can hear upon starting is high pitch motor noise.
- The ABS Recall which is Done
- There is something in the brakes occasionally where the brake pedal is vibrating during braking. like ABS is triggered or something. but it is not hard braking naman.
- The evidence of Cost Cutting is everywhere. plastics, center console box is an accessory, there are no cabin lights on the rear and the hatch, etc. The noise at highway speeds is annoying. lack of sound insulation. but I have to commend the Suspension set-up. It is surprisingly comfortable for a little car. it deals with bumps on highways well for 3 or 4 persons. but with 5 adults on-board, the suspension will bottom up easily on uneven road surfaces
- Braking performance is noticably weaker with full 5 passengers. but it would suffice. you do have to adjust.
- the colors on the bumper are now yellowish. the body color is different with the painted plastics.
- the labor rates at Mitsubishi PMS are highalso the Turbo XP FS oil they carry is also expensive and there is no Semi-synthetic option. together with the labor, a 3 Liter Fully Synthtic PMS of a Mirage costs the same as a 7 Liter Semi-Synthetic PMS of the Sorento R-eVGT.
- the A/C Cabin filter is very dirty at around 16T Kms. turbine noise and foul smell every time you turn on the A/C and it is not readily available at three CASAs I visited. I have no choice but to clean it with a leaf blower.
You can't expect really on a car this cheap, its still a good buy considering the features this car has. Push Button Start with proximity entry, Automatic Climate Control and GPS/Touchscreen for under 600k after the early-bird discount for the top of the range GLS. its a hundred thousand or more cheaper than the others. it is a very good car for city driving. if you drive often highway, uh uhm, better get the vios 1.5
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