First time buyer, owner, driver. What to buy?

**bxr monkey** · March 24th, 2021 01:42 PM

Kung sisilipin ang Fortuner, tigngan na din ang Innova, Rav4, at Corolla Cross sa dealer.

Iyong cloth seats puwede lagyan ng leather. Check din iyong refinement ng gas engine. Although malakas ang appeal ng murang diesel fuel. Sana ma reconsider din ang pollution nito.

**17Sphynx17** · March 24th, 2021 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by bxr monkey

Kung sisilipin ang Fortuner, tigngan na din ang Innova, Rav4, at Corolla Cross sa dealer.

Iyong cloth seats puwede lagyan ng leather. Check din iyong refinement ng gas engine. Although malakas ang appeal ng murang diesel fuel. Sana ma reconsider din ang pollution nito.

Rather than that argument, I would instead just ask the TS, madalas ba kelangan umakyat ng matarik (bundok, burol) ang sasakyan? Kasi kung madalas, kelangan ng TS ng torque. So mas ideal na ang diesel. Yes, may turbo gas engines naman to claw back that performance din, but kung madalas nga talaga akyatan, then I think mas logical to opt for diesel.

But kung usually patag naman, I won't argue for diesel. I prefer petrol engines kung yun yung madalas na gamit ng sasakyan.

**ninjababez** · March 24th, 2021 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17

Rather than that argument, I would instead just ask the TS, madalas ba kelangan umakyat ng matarik (bundok, burol) ang sasakyan? Kasi kung madalas, kelangan ng TS ng torque. So mas ideal na ang diesel. Yes, may turbo gas engines naman to claw back that performance din, but kung madalas nga talaga akyatan, then I think mas logical to opt for diesel.

But kung usually patag naman, I won't argue for diesel. I prefer petrol engines kung yun yung madalas na gamit ng sasakyan.

good point bro!

**bxr monkey** · March 24th, 2021 07:20 PM

Sa Baguio nga puro diesel ang taxi. Mausok minsan kung bumomba paakyat.

Kayang kaya din ito ng Rav4, kahit hindi turbo.

**tarzegetakizerd** · March 25th, 2021 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by bxr monkey

Sa Baguio nga puro diesel ang taxi. Mausok minsan kung bumomba paakyat.

Kayang kaya din ito ng Rav4, kahit hindi turbo.

kahit City kaya naman yung paakyat ng baguio eh

**Egan101** · March 25th, 2021 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by tarzegetakizerd

kahit City kaya naman yung paakyat ng baguio eh

Back in 2012, we used a City 1.5L going up to Baguio with 4 people plus luggage. Wala naman problem going up and down Kennon Road.

A few years later, we used our Fiesta Ecoboost and I had a blast ripping thru Kennon Road going up. It was fun zipping thru the twists and turns with a small quick car.

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**ninjababez** · March 25th, 2021 09:43 AM

di naman paakyat ng baguio hirap ang small gas engine, dun sa baguio mismo may streets na matarik talaga.
pero kaya naman kahit ng 1.3L vios ko noon, nakakabigla lang hehehe

**17Sphynx17** · March 25th, 2021 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by tarzegetakizerd

kahit City kaya naman yung paakyat ng baguio eh

It's not that the petrol "can't". It is that a diesel engine has more torque available down low. That's why the question is situational. If madalas akyatan ang gamit ng kotse, I think diesel engine would be better for practicality.

Anecdotal Experience with Family. Innova 2.0 Gas MT and a Kia Carens AT convoy up to Baguio that started in QC. Full tank pareho at the start. Pag dating Baguio, 1/3 lang nakain sa diesel, Innova iilaw na. Pareho full load with passengers and luggage. So with this base experience, kung madalang ka lang naman aakyat, kahit mag gas engine ka, okay lang naman. Pero if you do it frequently, iba usapan from a utility and practicality standpoint.

Yung Carens nakaikot na kami sa Baguio and nagpagas lang bago kami bumaba. Yung Innova, bago kami bumaba nagpagas na ulit kami.

But again, anecdotal personal experience, so your mileage can definitely vary as well as your preference.

**tarzegetakizerd** · March 25th, 2021 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by ninjababez

di naman paakyat ng baguio hirap ang small gas engine, dun sa baguio mismo may streets na matarik talaga.
pero kaya naman kahit ng 1.3L vios ko noon, nakakabigla lang hehehe

mukhang kung saan saan po tayo nakarating sa baguio haha. for a normal tourist in baguio, wala naman masyado dadaanan na mas matarik sa kennon road haha. coming from a baguio boy. yung 1.3L na vios mahihirapan nga din dun sa paakyat. "patay aircon"

**tarzegetakizerd** · March 25th, 2021 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by 17Sphynx17

It's not that the petrol "can't". It is that a diesel engine has more torque available down low. That's why the question is situational. If madalas akyatan ang gamit ng kotse, I think diesel engine would be better for practicality.

Anecdotal Experience with Family. Innova 2.0 Gas MT and a Kia Carens AT convoy up to Baguio that started in QC. Full tank pareho at the start. Pag dating Baguio, 1/3 lang nakain sa diesel, Innova iilaw na. Pareho full load with passengers and luggage. So with this base experience, kung madalang ka lang naman aakyat, kahit mag gas engine ka, okay lang naman. Pero if you do it frequently, iba usapan from a utility and practicality standpoint.

Yung Carens nakaikot na kami sa Baguio and nagpagas lang bago kami bumaba. Yung Innova, bago kami bumaba nagpagas na ulit kami.

But again, anecdotal personal experience, so your mileage can definitely vary as well as your preference.

hehe it's just that your initial input was about performance, so we say the petrol "can". Practicality is a different perspective, as described by your experience. If the OP can live with the fuel expense, like we do with our petrol sedans, then it is not a deal breaker.

OT but also I feel like the Innova Gas 2.0 is a guzzler and underpowered at the same time. hehe yung avanza naman namin di ganyan kalakas sa gas kahit puno at mas mahina ang hatak.