audio set-up for beginners [continued]

**jhnkvn** · February 9th, 2014 02:49 AM

They've lately been quite aggressive sa car audio budget offerings nila. Saw a lot of them sa Banawe but I haven't heard of one pa.

I don't think you'll go wrong with them naman. TEAC's a known brand naman when it comes to the audio industry. While the likes of Harman's JBL was more focused on consumer goods (home speakers, pro-audio speakers, etc.) si TEAC more on the recording industry. They were very famous before.. I guess since masnawala na mga magnetic tapes, they've become less known na.

**n5110** · February 9th, 2014 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by jhnkvn

Just get coaxials sa likod. It's a bit weird to have separates at the rears kasi.

For the brands, depends on your budget. I typically like Targa and Ryan Audio naman. They're excellent at their budget offerings.

Thanks sir for the inputs. Ganito na muna ang step na gagawin ko. Hopefully may significant change in sq pag palit ko sa stock speakers.

**CT_HuNTeR** · February 17th, 2014 12:04 PM

*jhnkvn and to all our gurus here mga sir can you give me some advised? i have a honda city 09 with stock sound set up, and i'm planning to upgrade the system but the problem is of-course ang budget, just want to know which is which ang magandang uunahin kong i upgrade ang seps or head unit? for a seps balak ko sana yung DLS RS6N and for the HU is yung pioneer avh-x1650dvd or avh-x2650BT one at a time lang kasi ang kaya ko hehe or may ma advise ba kayo na mas ok na brand ng seps budget ko kasi sa seps is 10k only kung mas mataas pa dun baka dikona makaya hehe... TIA

**jhnkvn** · February 17th, 2014 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by CT_HuNTeR

*jhnkvn and to all our gurus here mga sir can you give me some advised? i have a honda city 09 with stock sound set up, and i'm planning to upgrade the system but the problem is of-course ang budget, just want to know which is which ang magandang uunahin kong i upgrade ang seps or head unit? for a seps balak ko sana yung DLS RS6N and for the HU is yung pioneer avh-x1650dvd or avh-x2650BT one at a time lang kasi ang kaya ko hehe or may ma advise ba kayo na mas ok na brand ng seps budget ko kasi sa seps is 10k only kung mas mataas pa dun baka dikona makaya hehe... TIA

Generally, a speaker upgrade will yield better results than a head unit upgrade. Of course, YMMV kasi dito since some stock head units sound horrible (they restrict the sound a lot) and that upgrading it first may yield better results. But given that most stock head units nowadays are of better quality na, my vote will go to a speaker upgrade muna.

May balak ka ba mag-amplifier? If not, I'll suggest lowering your budget to around the 7k mark. I've gotten more strict in my budgetary requirements na wherein before I will suggest a ceiling of 10,000php for non-amplified systems, nowadays I will limit it to 7,000php.

As some of you might have noticed, I'm a fan of JBL's 609C because at 5,000php I find it of tremendous value. Speaker construction palang panalo na. But if you insist, the RS6N won't disappoint din naman. If you're also into the more "upscale" brands, you can also check out Morel's entry-level Maximo 6 at around 7,000php (nagtaas na presyo nila lahat thanks to inflation).

For the head unit, pick one that fits your needs and budget. If you need Bluetooth, then get a model that has one. Parehas lang sound quality nila lahat -- what simply differs are the features (better screen, etc.).

After installation, fiddle with the EQ afterwards. Just tailor it according to your taste. Need more bass? Then a +1 or +2dB to the bass regions (50hz to 300hz) would be nice.

**CT_HuNTeR** · February 17th, 2014 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by jhnkvn

Generally, a speaker upgrade will yield better results than a head unit upgrade. Of course, YMMV kasi dito since some stock head units sound horrible (they restrict the sound a lot) and that upgrading it first may yield better results. But given that most stock head units nowadays are of better quality na, my vote will go to a speaker upgrade muna.

May balak ka ba mag-amplifier? If not, I'll suggest lowering your budget to around the 7k mark. I've gotten more strict in my budgetary requirements na wherein before I will suggest a ceiling of 10,000php for non-amplified systems, nowadays I will limit it to 7,000php.

As some of you might have noticed, I'm a fan of JBL's 609C because at 5,000php I find it of tremendous value. Speaker construction palang panalo na. But if you insist, the RS6N won't disappoint din naman. If you're also into the more "upscale" brands, you can also check out Morel's entry-level Maximo 6 at around 7,000php (nagtaas na presyo nila lahat thanks to inflation).

For the head unit, pick one that fits your needs and budget. If you need Bluetooth, then get a model that has one. Parehas lang sound quality nila lahat -- what simply differs are the features (better screen, etc.).

After installation, fiddle with the EQ afterwards. Just tailor it according to your taste. Need more bass? Then a +1 or +2dB to the bass regions (50hz to 300hz) would be nice.

i came to the right person talaga sir very clear ang ang mga inputs mo and very helpful, yes sir plan ko din mag sub basta 1 at a time nga lang so kung mag sub ako sooner mas ok naba yung RS6N or mag JBL or morel na lang ako sir kasi sir syempre gusto ko isang bilihan lang pero kung ok na yung JBL sir pag nag sub ako i'll go for JBL na lang BTW sir san ako makabili ng JBL? and another question sir how about Rockford fosgate na P165s anong masasabi mo dun sir saka may supplier ba nun dito sa atin? saka sir pag speaker upgrade lang ba muna kailangan ko na rin mag pa deadening thanks again sir appreciated...

**jhnkvn** · February 18th, 2014 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by CT_HuNTeR

i came to the right person talaga sir very clear ang ang mga inputs mo and very helpful, yes sir plan ko din mag sub basta 1 at a time nga lang so kung mag sub ako sooner mas ok naba yung RS6N or mag JBL or morel na lang ako sir kasi sir syempre gusto ko isang bilihan lang pero kung ok na yung JBL sir pag nag sub ako i'll go for JBL na lang BTW sir san ako makabili ng JBL? and another question sir how about Rockford fosgate na P165s anong masasabi mo dun sir saka may supplier ba nun dito sa atin? saka sir pag speaker upgrade lang ba muna kailangan ko na rin mag pa deadening thanks again sir appreciated...

Personally, I'll go for the JBL. This leaves you more cash for your budget that you can budget for other components. JBL's local distributor is Perfect Circle of Banawe. You can purchase your needs directly through them or through their resellers (call them up with your location so they know where to point you to their nearest reseller).

On the otherhand, Rockford Fosgate's local distributor is Winterpine Marketing in Araneta Avenue. They're also the distributor of DLS and Kicker products.

Yun problema kasi for "budget" components is that there's not much difference in picking on them. 95% of the products uses either plastic polypropylene or paper in speaker construction and a metal/fabric tweeter for the highs. Between paper and plastic, usually plastic since it's low cost and easy to manufacture without much variation from driver to driver (for their QA). On the otherhand, paper is also low cost but more problematic (ex. they absorb moisture in the air so nagiiba tunog nila over time if untreated) for manufacturers.

Speaker selection shines once you start going for the 10,000php upwards. Dito nakikita mo na mga R&D ng mga speaker manufacturers such as Focal's glass/paper "polyglass" sandwiches, JBL subwoofer GTi's underhung motors with differential drive design, Morel's carbon fiber Rohacell sandwiches, etc. Aside from these meron din mga tweaks dyan-dyan like using more expensive neodymium over the common ferrite magnets, the use of aluminum voice coils and non-magnetic baskets, etc.

Do you need deadening? Not really but I do suggest it. Improvements differs from car-to-car kasi... but it might be a good idea for you to "experience" it. No harm there naman. You can backread the thread a bit on what deadening's benefits are.

**CT_HuNTeR** · February 18th, 2014 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by jhnkvn

Personally, I'll go for the JBL. This leaves you more cash for your budget that you can budget for other components. JBL's local distributor is Perfect Circle of Banawe. You can purchase your needs directly through them or through their resellers (call them up with your location so they know where to point you to their nearest reseller).

On the otherhand, Rockford Fosgate's local distributor is Winterpine Marketing in Araneta Avenue. They're also the distributor of DLS and Kicker products.

Yun problema kasi for "budget" components is that there's not much difference in picking on them. 95% of the products uses either plastic polypropylene or paper in speaker construction and a metal/fabric tweeter for the highs. Between paper and plastic, usually plastic since it's low cost and easy to manufacture without much variation from driver to driver (for their QA). On the otherhand, paper is also low cost but more problematic (ex. they absorb moisture in the air so nagiiba tunog nila over time if untreated) for manufacturers.

Speaker selection shines once you start going for the 10,000php upwards. Dito nakikita mo na mga R&D ng mga speaker manufacturers such as Focal's glass/paper "polyglass" sandwiches, JBL subwoofer GTi's underhung motors with differential drive design, Morel's carbon fiber Rohacell sandwiches, etc. Aside from these meron din mga tweaks dyan-dyan like using more expensive neodymium over the common ferrite magnets, the use of aluminum voice coils and non-magnetic baskets, etc.

Do you need deadening? Not really but I do suggest it. Improvements differs from car-to-car kasi... but it might be a good idea for you to "experience" it. No harm there naman. You can backread the thread a bit on what deadening's benefits are.

wow thanks for enlightening me sir para kang si sakuragi isa kang henyo when it comes to ICE i supposed marami ka pang alam sa car di lang sa sounds galing boss may fb kaba sir add kita husay mo eh haha...

**jhnkvn** · February 20th, 2014 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by CT_HuNTeR

wow thanks for enlightening me sir para kang si sakuragi isa kang henyo when it comes to ICE i supposed marami ka pang alam sa car di lang sa sounds galing boss may fb kaba sir add kita husay mo eh haha...

Haha, thanks for the compliments boss. However, I'll need to decline the FB request on the basis that I add only people I'm quite close to.

Feel free to post any more questions if you have them ;) dumaan din ako sa newbie stage so alam ko yun feeling kung may nagtatanong tpos wala sumasagot

**X-salta** · February 20th, 2014 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by jhnkvn

Haha, thanks for the compliments boss. However, I'll need to decline the FB request on the basis that I add only people I'm quite close to.

Feel free to post any more questions if you have them ;) dumaan din ako sa newbie stage so alam ko yun feeling kung may nagtatanong tpos wala sumasagot

Panalo ka talaga sir!

**ralphs** · February 22nd, 2014 04:41 AM

I plan to upgrade my Innova's soung system.
I currently have:
Front: 6" 2-way Pioneer 40w rms
Rear: 6" x 9" 3-way Pioneer 40w rms

I plan to buy:
HEADUNIT
JVC 2-din KW R600BT
20w rms x 4
2.5v x 2 pre-outs (front + rear/subs)

SUBWOOFER:
I prefer powered subs for less hassle.

I am not looking forward to have a boom boom pow sound system but I like a clean, deep, smooth and swabe output from my set-up.

QUESTIONS:
1- What could be the best subwoofer to get? (the smaller the better)
2- Do I still need seps and a separate ampli for it?

I can spend around 15k for the speakers and ampli.

Maraming salamat po.