audio set-up for beginners [continued]

**monty_GTV** · August 14th, 2018 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by D3nb3r

Kailangan mag DIY sir dahil the nearest audio installer sa area ko is 300km away hehehe.
What I mean po is I'll buy a sub na lang and build my own enclosure rather than buy a powered underseat sub.
Underseat sub can only do so much. Yung kicker hide away underseat sub is around 16k, the Focal IBus kahit yung gen 1 is 20k above. DLS is going to bring in their own underseat sub but dont know when and magkano price...

ah ok bro, talagang DIY route ka if malayo ang installer sayo. nasa ballpark nga ng presyo na binanggit mo mga active underseat subs. i inquired about the likes of rainbow, ryan audio, ground zero. pros lang ay active na sila so no need for separate amplification. they may not go or play at very low frequency pero just to augment the bass, pwede na.

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**JohnM** · August 14th, 2018 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by D3nb3r

With that amount of money I could buy a JL 10tw3 shallow sub at around 17k, wider cone surface, longer excursion and more powerful kahit mga 0.34cu ft lang enclosure ko makaka produce ako ng mga 56hz at 0 db. Yun nga lang kailangan pa amp.

How big (in terms of physical dimensions) an amp do you need for this application? Eto yung magiging upgrade part 2 ko after the seps. Pwede kayang ikabit na rin sa enclosure ang amp then quick disconnects na lang if I need the trunk space? The enclosure shouldn't vibrate if it's constructed properly right?

**Egan101** · August 14th, 2018 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by JohnM

How big (in terms of physical dimensions) an amp do you need for this application? Eto yung magiging upgrade part 2 ko after the seps. Pwede kayang ikabit na rin sa enclosure ang amp then quick disconnects na lang if I need the trunk space? The enclosure shouldn't vibrate if it's constructed properly right?

I would suggest to install the amp on a different mount than putting it on the subwoofer box. You can use slim depth subwoofers with minimal sealed volume enclosures to save space. I have used before a 10” subwoofer with just 1 cubic feet (internal) of sealed enclosure and it offered decent low frequency sounds that matched my audio system.

If opting for an amp, I would suggest a 5-channel amp as the 5th channel is usually a dedicated mono output for a subwoofer. You can even use it to run a 2-way full active setup. There are those Class D amps that are small enough that could fit under the seats.

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**JohnM** · August 14th, 2018 01:10 PM

Mga back seat drivers ko kasi sanay na sa space under the front seats since nakakastretch sila ng todo and may aircon vents na rin don. There might be space on the trunk sidewall pero it will not be big enough for a 4 or 5 channel amp.

**D3nb3r** · August 14th, 2018 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by JohnM

How big (in terms of physical dimensions) an amp do you need for this application? Eto yung magiging upgrade part 2 ko after the seps. Pwede kayang ikabit na rin sa enclosure ang amp then quick disconnects na lang if I need the trunk space? The enclosure shouldn't vibrate if it's constructed properly right?

Physical dimensions of the amp depends sa design and rating ng manufacturer po. But in general, class D amps are smaller if compared sa class AB. Around mga ilang watts na sub po ba plan nyo ilagay? Stetsom and kicker have some 600wrms at 2ohms with around 7"x8" Or the pioneer GM seires mga 10" if di ka naman ma selan sa THD. But if you want lower distortion then medyo pricey ang mga yan like zapco, helix or genesis, etc.
Any amps naman can be installed on the sidewall and your sub enclosure would have either a spring or threaded type terminals so you can disconnect the box anytime.

**monty_GTV** · August 14th, 2018 06:35 PM

^ both my car and van have 10" subwoofers in custom enclosures made by the installer, they are wired in XLR connection kaya easy to remove if i need the trunk. power is coming from 5ch amps installed and tucked in neatly and out of view under seat. my suv have no amplifier and subwoofer, all power coming from HU but the front speakers upgrade was good enough for me that tonality wise, i felt that i don't need a sub. lately, i was with a friend with the same car fitted with an under seat sub, well i think that i need one now

**D3nb3r** · August 14th, 2018 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by monty_GTV

^ lately, i was with a friend with the same car fitted with an under seat sub, well i think that i need one now

Kaya doble ingat lalo na pag sumakay ka sa mga vehicles na upgraded ang audio systems dahil malamang kakamutin mo talaga ang kati na matagal mo na pinipigilang kamutin

**monty_GTV** · August 14th, 2018 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by D3nb3r

Kaya doble ingat lalo na pag sumakay ka sa mga vehicles na upgraded ang audio systems dahil malamang kakamutin mo talaga ang kati na matagal mo na pinipigilang kamutin

yun nga bro eh

then i saw the install made by mickey's din of a 15in roof mounted tv monitor sa grandia, gusto ko rin palagyan yung van ko. parang masarap nakaupo sa captain seat habang may pinapanood while nasa long trip. kamot na naman eto

**kabute13** · August 17th, 2018 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by D3nb3r

Kaya doble ingat lalo na pag sumakay ka sa mga vehicles na upgraded ang audio systems dahil malamang kakamutin mo talaga ang kati na matagal mo na pinipigilang kamutin

hahaha! very true!

fortunately nalagpasan ko na ang ganitong phase. [emoji4]

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**troytin20** · August 18th, 2018 05:20 PM

Hi guys hingi lang sana ako ng feedback/review sainyo regarding Morel Primo 10" and JL Audio W3V3
I'm currently using a Hertz Energy 250.5 on a sealed box driven by Steg DST401D
I want to know first if i would notice the difference if i change my subwoofer from my choices, thanks mga idol