audio set-up for beginners [continued]

[monty_GTV]

hello sir jhnkvn, anything can you say about BeFit? you might have auditioned one with it. thanks

[jhnkvn]

hello sir jhnkvn, anything can you say about BeFit? you might have auditioned one with it. thanks

Since you're reading this, I might as well give you an entire overview on the brand and the engineering behind it.

Bewith Japan is one of the few remaining "high-end" brands in audio. Many Japanese "high-end" are already eaten up by bigger companies and holding companies - most famous is probably Nakamichi which supplied OEM Lexus LS stereo before. If I'll have my take, they're expensive for the price. Good thing that the BeFIT is their entry-level answer (Php50,000) to the Philippine market, once you go up to their Accurate and Confidence series, those "packages" comes with a hefty price tag of P300,000 and sub-Php1million. The most expensive Bewith setup belongs to Jerico who is a fellow Team Mickey member who spent Php2 million upwards on his Bewith setup (heck, subwoofers alone costs 90k for two 8/10 inchers).

The magic of their Confidence and Accurate series is their simplicity -- 2" wide-band tweeter and 6 1/2" midbass. The 2" tweeter is housed in an egg-shaped pod (much like my aluminum pods), the acoustic reason for this is for diffusion that makes the tweeter "disappear" while you enjoy the music. A great example of who uses pod diffusion is the diamond tweeter of the Php2-7million B&W Series 800 loudspeakers. Notice how they gradually taper the back of the tweeter? That's for diffusion purposes. Continuing on, the 6.5" midbass needs to be mounted in a ported box that is tuned quite low (a safe answer is 50hz) hence installation on the door panel is a requirement.

If you dig further in, you'll notice that their entire lineup: tweeter, midbass, subwoofer looks similar with the only difference is the size. What this does is that it reduces phase problems to a minimum and if you're in a car, you're mainly battling phase issues because of the distance of the drivers from one another. If you're rather keen on the eye and is exposed to the hi-fi industry, you'll notice that Dynaudio and Focal JMLab's flagship offerings are also shaped similarly.

So the magic of Bewith is really simply because it's (1) simple - as it uses two drivers rather than three and it forces the user to (2) do extensive modifications - most especially in the door panel where a ported design is a must. And because the ported design is housed in a pretty sturdy MDF board, resonance is kept at a minimum. Coupled with the 50hz port, I would define the midbass as the star of the show giving any user top-notch bass.

As much as I love Bewith, I'm not a believer of their BeFIT. Sure, it has a soft-domed tweeter and still a rock-solid midbass but there's more value-for-money offerings out there. For example, I love the industry's recent shift to wideband tweeters this is why I love Dominations ES62 Sinatra priced at around Php29k. Having a driver that plays 400hz and above which you can simply mount on the windshield gives immense benefits to the user because it raises the soundstage to nearer that of ear-level rather than the door-level midbass.

Remember though, the magic of car audio starts when you have a competent head unit. Get a suitable head unit with tuning features (T/A, EQ, etc.) and you're set. So remember, head unit first then speakers.

If people are wondering which BeFIT I have heard in the past, I'd say one of the better people who got it "right" was J. Hermano and his Toyota 86 which has a BeFIT powered by the HU. And if you're scratching your head who he is, he's one of the Philippines' best sound engineers so sound is his profession. For one, he's the one who designed Shangri-La's mall cinemas :naughty2:

[monty_GTV]

Since you're reading this, I might as well give you an entire overview on the brand and the engineering behind it.

Bewith Japan is one of the few remaining "high-end" brands in audio. Many Japanese "high-end" are already eaten up by bigger companies and holding companies - most famous is probably Nakamichi which supplied OEM Lexus LS stereo before. If I'll have my take, they're expensive for the price. Good thing that the BeFIT is their entry-level answer (Php50,000) to the Philippine market, once you go up to their Accurate and Confidence series, those "packages" comes with a hefty price tag of P300,000 and sub-Php1million. The most expensive Bewith setup belongs to Jerico who is a fellow Team Mickey member who spent Php2 million upwards on his Bewith setup (heck, subwoofers alone costs 90k for two 8/10 inchers).

The magic of their Confidence and Accurate series is their simplicity -- 2" wide-band tweeter and 6 1/2" midbass. The 2" tweeter is housed in an egg-shaped pod (much like my aluminum pods), the acoustic reason for this is for diffusion that makes the tweeter "disappear" while you enjoy the music. A great example of who uses pod diffusion is the diamond tweeter of the Php2-7million B&W Series 800 loudspeakers. Notice how they gradually taper the back of the tweeter? That's for diffusion purposes. Continuing on, the 6.5" midbass needs to be mounted in a ported box that is tuned quite low (a safe answer is 50hz) hence installation on the door panel is a requirement.

If you dig further in, you'll notice that their entire lineup: tweeter, midbass, subwoofer looks similar with the only difference is the size. What this does is that it reduces phase problems to a minimum and if you're in a car, you're mainly battling phase issues because of the distance of the drivers from one another. If you're rather keen on the eye and is exposed to the hi-fi industry, you'll notice that Dynaudio and Focal JMLab's flagship offerings are also shaped similarly.

So the magic of Bewith is really simply because it's (1) simple - as it uses two drivers rather than three and it forces the user to (2) do extensive modifications - most especially in the door panel where a ported design is a must. And because the ported design is housed in a pretty sturdy MDF board, resonance is kept at a minimum. Coupled with the 50hz port, I would define the midbass as the star of the show giving any user top-notch bass.

As much as I love Bewith, I'm not a believer of their BeFIT. Sure, it has a soft-domed tweeter and still a rock-solid midbass but there's more value-for-money offerings out there. For example, I love the industry's recent shift to wideband tweeters this is why I love Dominations ES62 Sinatra priced at around Php29k. Having a driver that plays 400hz and above which you can simply mount on the windshield gives immense benefits to the user because it raises the soundstage to nearer that of ear-level rather than the door-level midbass.

Remember though, the magic of car audio starts when you have a competent head unit. Get a suitable head unit with tuning features (T/A, EQ, etc.) and you're set. So remember, head unit first then speakers.

If people are wondering which BeFIT I have heard in the past, I'd say one of the better people who got it "right" was J. Hermano and his Toyota 86 which has a BeFIT powered by the HU. And if you're scratching your head who he is, he's one of the Philippines' best sound engineers so sound is his profession. For one, he's the one who designed Shangri-La's mall cinemas :naughty2:

thanks a lot sir jhnkvn for the complete overview of the product. well said sir

[brooom]

Tnx for the reply sir jhnkvn. Ang nabili ko pong set up is
HU: pioneer 4450bt
Speaker: Cadence cvlm64n raw driver
tweeter: Cadence cvlt 35n
Ampli: kinetic kd75.4 (pansamantala)
Am I having a good start in LnC? kaya kaya ng ampli ko ang set up na to? ano marecommend niyo po na ampli below 10k budget? tnx po

[Troy Inovero]

Sir jhnkvn ano po ang masasabi nyo sa Alpine CDA-117E? Yun po kasi ang gusto kong bilhin na HU. Gusto ko po kasing gumanda yung boses e.

My current setup is:
Seps: Focal IS 165
Coaxial: Focal IC 165
Ampli: Sound Magus 160.4
Sub: Digital Designs 10"

c/o Mickey's Autosound

[Balikpinoy]

Anybody know a shop that carries these locally?

http://www.amazon.com/Metra-40-HD21-.../dp/B003R7KYTK

[brooom]

sir meron ata niyan sa banawe.

[Balikpinoy]

sir meron ata niyan sa banawe.

Alam mo ba name ng shop?

[beni23]

Sir jhnkvn ano po ang masasabi nyo sa Alpine CDA-117E? Yun po kasi ang gusto kong bilhin na HU. Gusto ko po kasing gumanda yung boses e.

My current setup is:
Seps: Focal IS 165
Coaxial: Focal IC 165
Ampli: Sound Magus 160.4
Sub: Digital Designs 10"

c/o Mickey's Autosound

Ganda pala ng setup mo bro.


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[Troy Inovero]

Ganda pala ng setup mo bro.


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Mukha lang maganda, hehe.
Kulang pa ng Head Unit e, para gumanda yung boses. :D