Detailing Thread [For Newbies][continued]

[madkatz]

Question for people who are using Meguairs NXT shampoo,

How many capfuls of Meguairs NXT shampoo do you place in your bucket? And upto what level do you fill the bucket with water?

Kasi kung sinusundan ko un recommended na 4 capfuls for 1 gallon of water, parang ang tapang masyado.

2 capfuls for half a bucket so yes 4 capfuls for a whole bucket of water, but you don't need a bucket full of shampoo solution just half a bucket and hit the solution with water pressure to generate foam and thats enough already.

[rico_g]

so pwede gumamit ng glss cleaner on top of rain clear??? I thought it may strip off ung rain clear...

may I know what chemicals applied on the windshield can strip off rain clear?

thnx!

up lang po on this query... thanks!

[madkatz]

up lang po on this query... thanks!

yes you could use glass cleaner on top of rain clear, if you use the right kind of glass cleaner thats just light enough to remove oils without any harmful acids then you can use that kind of glass cleaner without worrying

[Nik]

i see.. grabe laspagan ng pera .. pang mga expensive car lang talaga hehe at hindi lang pang expensive car pang may mga hilig sa detailing din hehe pero ang saya mag detail kahit lagas pera ko ..

*madkatz ok lang ba eto muna gawin ko hangat wala pa ako step1 megs.. scratch remover TW then step2 megs.. ok lang ba? 1.8k lang kasi money ko knina hindi umabot si step 1 naisip ko kasi baka pwede yung ganyan pasamantala.. if mag apply ako ng step 2 megs polish .. matatangal ba yung existing wax..meaning back to zero.. thanks.. tinamad na ako mag back read antok hehe

[jmpet626]

i see.. grabe laspagan ng pera .. pang mga expensive car lang talaga hehe at hindi lang pang expensive car pang may mga hilig sa detailing din hehe pero ang saya mag detail kahit lagas pera ko ..

Medyo malaki lang initial investment pero umaabot naman ng 2 to alsmost 3 years yung mga detailing products if used properly. Pag nag compute ka mas makaka mura ka in the long run compared sa pag pina detail mo sa mga shop . Also yung quality ng gawa iba talaga pag yung owner mismo ang gumagawa.

[jmpet626]

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[weszt]

*madkatz

hi just finished my 1st detailing....

questions ko po.

hindi ko po totally natanggal yung mga swirls. kasi swirlx lang ginamit ko using bosch ROP, natatakot ako gamitin yung UC eh? and ok lang po ba gamitin ang swirlx on 4-5 setting sa Bosch ROP? nag try ako ng 3 pero hindi ko pa din matanggal yung ibang swirls eh

what do you recommend? mag UC na po ako using LC white pads para matanggal na mga swirls? can i safely use higher speed on my ROP? both sa swirl x and UC. ilang speeds po ang max na pwede ko gamitin?

[jmpet626]

Safe yan since Random Orbit polisher naman gamit mo and lesser wattage siya. Pag di kinaya sa Swirl X change to a more agressive pad and polish combo.

[madkatz]

*madkatz

hi just finished my 1st detailing....

questions ko po.

hindi ko po totally natanggal yung mga swirls. kasi swirlx lang ginamit ko using bosch ROP, natatakot ako gamitin yung UC eh? and ok lang po ba gamitin ang swirlx on 4-5 setting sa Bosch ROP? nag try ako ng 3 pero hindi ko pa din matanggal yung ibang swirls eh

what do you recommend? mag UC na po ako using LC white pads para matanggal na mga swirls? can i safely use higher speed on my ROP? both sa swirl x and UC. ilang speeds po ang max na pwede ko gamitin?

Ok there's a lot of things you have to take into consideration before you move to a higher setting with that machine and before you go to using UC

firstly that machine runs way way more orbits than a PC, a PC can only go up to around 6k+ OPM's and that machine can go way up to 18kOPMS so i really don't advice you to go any higher than 3.5, at most 4 would be the maximum setting, at setting 4 you're already doing twice more OPM's than the PC at speed 6 which is a little scary, thats the main reason why we had the motor changed with ours, its because OPM's are good for buffing the paint to a high gloss but not really correcting, if you want to correct the paint you really need the slow rotation of the machine in order to slowly and finely abrade the finish, so without rotation all you're doing is buffing the paint to a high gloss, i mean if we could already get the right correction with the stock machine why would we change the motor? we had to change the motor to a motor that has half the OPM's but twice the torque at maximum setting before we got the same correction as a PC at setting 5

next since i've mentioned that you need the rotation in order to correct paint, my next question would be, while you are buffing the paint is the backing plate or pad rotating at about at least 1 rotation per second? if the pad and backing plate is not rotating then you need to lighten up the pressure, correcting paint with a ROP requires pressure to level the paint but you also have to put pressure to do that effectively and 1 rotation per second is the ideal rotation of a ROP, so you might have to adjust the pressure you are putting on the machine

next is method, and this mainly involves keeping the pad flat nearly all the time, and method also includes how to buff edges and working the product properly, there's a certain work time you need with swirlX, and if you're good enough swirlX won't really dry up fast giving you more correcting ability

lastly is pad and product combination as what jmpet said, if you're using swirlX with a white pad, try it again with an orange pad, if its still there try it again with a yellow pad, but since its swirlX i would say you're better with a yellow pad, swirlX can only remove the lightest swirls so you need a stronger and more abrasive pad to tackle light swirls

after taking into consideration all of these, thats the only time i would recommend you use UC, UC with a yellow pad on a PC can already tackle some heavy to moderate defects but again thats with a PC, take note your ROP currently has just about half of PC's correcting ability due to lack or torque, it is however better than a PC in terms of applying sealants and glazes

i remember my BF tell me that a few weeks ago matt came to his place and he taught matt how to use the PC, they only used megs83 and a yellow pad at speed 4 on the PC to remove moderate defects, megs83 is nearly the same as swirlx so in that scenario you really might need to change to a yellow cutting pad or even a purple foam wool pad and then just follow it up with the white for finishing

[Nik]

Medyo malaki lang initial investment pero umaabot naman ng 2 to alsmost 3 years yung mga detailing products if used properly. Pag nag compute ka mas makaka mura ka in the long run compared sa pag pina detail mo sa mga shop . Also yung quality ng gawa iba talaga pag yung owner mismo ang gumagawa.

tama.. saka para sakin sarap sa feeling pag ako yung nag papaganda sa kotse or ako yung gumagawa ng detailing hehe