The 2010 MVDP: Feat. the "Filipino Car" or Philippine Brand Vehicles

[niky]

is it more practical to buy a new motorcycle than a 1970s sedan?

If there are just two or three of you in the family...

A motorcycle will easily get 40 kilometers a liter... even in traffic (walang traffic sa motor!). So a monthly commute of, say, 500 kilometers will cost only 525 pesos worth of gas.

A 70's car will only get 5-7 km/l in traffic. A 90's secondhand... maybe 7-8 km/l. Even if it's 7-8 km/l, that monthly 500 kms will cost 2625 pesos in terms of gasoline.

Oil changes: Motorbike versus car: No contest. Most people can change a motorbike's oil by themselves. No need of a jack or garage space.

Registration: Bike: Cheaper

Tires: Bike: Much cheaper. And you only have two.

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The one big downside (aside from safety... but that's mainly up to the rider...) is weather protection. On days where the weather is bad, you ride public transport... but even then, your overall monthly and yearly bills are much cheaper with a bike (and a bike is cheaper than public transport).

And it's not safe to carry kids or families on them... but people do it, anyway... because it's cheap and cost-effective. Which is why everyone else in Asia is addicted to underbones (sadly... the Philippines cottoned onto underbones late in the game)... even the Taiwanese and Japanese, who are much richer than us, are addicted to scooters... and they're starting to become popular in the US, too.

[andywesteast]

but there are people who don't play by the rules

kahit saan ka pumunta, there will always be people who don't play by the rules

that's reality

that's the way of the world

the world doesnt work according to how it should ideally work

Yup, i can still recall the HONDA and their 10-seater CRV, hahahaha.

[uls]

i remember that

pag 9 seater or less = higher tax

pag 10 seater or more = lower tax

so Honda added seats to the CRV to avoid higher taxes

[tidus1203]

And obvious naman with anyone with a straight mind that the CR-V is not a 10 seater... pero Honda took advantage of the loopholes and there goes the sales. The RAV4 was murdered! That's what you call ADAPTING to changes and changing accordingly to take advantage...

[uls]

yep

gaming the system

[aejhayl17]

*sir ULS and sir niky

here is the news cover of the accident the other day that i was talking about.

its at the 9:35 duration of the video

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRnnc0jURCw"]YouTube- 24 Oras July 5 - News Headlines[/ame]

its across the street, infront of our house

sorry OT:

[uls]

sir aejhayl17,

i understand your point RE the safety of motorbikes

all i'm saying is -- yan ang pinili ng ordinary pinoys

i'm not trying to argue kung dapat o hindi dapat nila pinili ang motor as their private motor vehicle

my point is --- since the "single" motor is the most popular private motor vehicle among ordinary pinoys, then it can be called the people's car

kung tama o mali ang choice nila RE:SAFETY, that's no longer part of my discussion

[aejhayl17]

sir aejhayl17,

i understand your point RE the safety of motorbikes

all i'm saying is -- yan ang pinili ng ordinary pinoys

i'm not trying to argue kung dapat o hindi dapat nila pinili ang motor as their private motor vehicle

my point is --- since the "single" motor is the most popular private motor vehicle among ordinary pinoys, then it can be called the people's car

kung tama o mali ang choice nila RE:SAFETY, that's no longer part of my discussion

speaking of ordinary Pinoys, what about Jeepneys? not e-jeep or b-jeep. there are way way way more PUJ commuters compared to single motorcycle users.

irrelevant ata post ko, since we are discussing about private vehicle. sorry.

anyways, there has to be other alternatives for the motorcycle.

what should be / was the filipino car before the era of single motorcycles?

[uls]

yes, there are more PUJ users than private motor users

madami pa naman ordinary folks who take public transport (MRT, LRT, buses, PUJs)

pero madami na ang umayaw sa public transport

naging ex-commuters na sila

they have discovered the convenience of private transport and i think they're not going back to commuting

more and more commuters are becoming ex-commuters coz of the affordability and popularity of the "single" motor

well, mostly lalake

mas konte ang babae na nagmomotor

pero yung mga babae na may husband or bf na may motor, di na din sila nag-co-commute... so madami na din ex-commuters na babae

ano ang people's car before the single motor?

i can't think of any private transport in the past that's as popular and as best-selling as the single motor

before the rise of the single motor, those who can't afford cars have no choice but to take public transport

now, coz of the single motor, people who can't afford cars have an alternative

what should be the people's car? (na 4 wheels)

if you take into consideration the income of ordinary pinoys, the people's car should be very affordable and financing should be available

that's what made the single motor click with ordinary pinoys

[niky]

yep

gaming the system

And note: what Honda did was perfectly legal, according to the letter of the law. They saw how the others were abusing the AUV law to sell luxury versions of their AUVs (and the law was written only to help poor families acquire AUVs for business), so they simply copied the formula.

That's why no law that proposes to favor local manufacturers can ever work. Because you can't write a law that no one can take advantage of.

For example: I can set up a plant to "manufacture" new cars from secondhand parts in the freeport and sell them for much cheaper than brand new. Breaking no laws. (heck... andaming "manufacturer" ng "brand new" Nissan Micra dito!)

All I'd be doing is changing the oil, "remanufacturing" the engine (top overhaul lang) and rebadging the car.

And I'd be providing more local "employment" per vehicle than some "manufacturers" do.

speaking of ordinary Pinoys, what about Jeepneys? not e-jeep or b-jeep. there are way way way more PUJ commuters compared to single motorcycle users.

irrelevant ata post ko, since we are discussing about private vehicle. sorry.

anyways, there has to be other alternatives for the motorcycle.

what should be / was the filipino car before the era of single motorcycles?

The jeepney. Even if ordinary pinoys don't own them, that's the transportation of the "masa".