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    Spin

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_(public_relations)
    In public relations, spin is a form of propaganda, achieved through providing an interpretation of an event or campaign to persuade public opinion in favor or against a certain organization or public figure. While traditional public relations may also rely on creative presentation of the facts, "spin" often, though not always, implies disingenuous, deceptive and/or highly manipulative tactics.[1]

    Because of the frequent association between "spin" and press conferences (especially government press conferences), the room in which these take place is sometimes described as a spin room. A group of people who develop spin may be referred to as "spin doctors" who engage in "spin doctoring" for the person or group that hired them.[2]
    BOI damage control using positive spin:

    Trade Undersecretary Elmer Hernandez told reporters last week that the NMVDP is “crucial” to laying down “new directions to make the industry more competitive in the light of a global environment and all the trade agreements [the Philippines] signed.”
    ^^

    translation: The local auto industry was unable to compete in a high tariff, protected environment. It will be even less able to compete in a zero tariff, free trade environment.

    A review done by BOI noted that the current MVDP—launched in 2002 to bring back the local auto sector’s performance to pre-Asian crisis levels—had been “unsuccessful.”
    ^^

    and the new MVDP will bring the local auto industry back to pre-Asian crisis levels?

    haha

    anyone wanna bet?

    “The industry has not yet reached pre-Asian crisis sales levels; CBU [completely built-up] sales dominated the domestic market; investments showed no expansion for the past 10 years; and industry capacity utilization only reached between 20 percent and 30 percent,” the incentives-giving agency said.
    ^^

    that's the trend

    the market wants CBUs

    if you're an investor and you don't wanna lose money -- don't fight the trend
    Last edited by uls; April 6th, 2010 at 10:06 AM.

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    I couldn't agree with ULS more about his insights... 5 stars!!!

    In another way of looking at it...

    We are still the country that Imperial Japan during WW2 chose / declared to be its' slave country.

    We are so pleased to export our local slaves to the world in exchange of their junks.

    And most of the elites who profit from the income generating potential of the slave sector encourages it more... why? just look at the number of OFW's living in their subdivisions and not really residing in those houses.

    The more families destroyed - the better - the more reason for our slaves to work and stay abroad and less reason to build and strengthen their family. The more income generated to send back to home country.

    A Trend??? or an END?

    The means to achieve it has been laid out long before we can even backtrack about it.

    - end result -

    The more dollar to buy Japanese Junks.

    Where else can Japan throw away their garbage and generate profit at the same time?

    Utang na loob pa natin?

    The last thing these MASTER countries want is for us to start thinking like them.

    When was the last time Filipinos think like Masters??? during Lapulapu times pa siguro.

    Another way of putting it... we are at the bottom of the food chain.

    Of course we are not affected by the Global Economic Crisis since our labor sector is crisis proof.

    Saan ka naman nakakita na ginugutom ng amo yung kanyang alalay?

    If you can only explore the minds of Japanese in general and how they look at all of us... Good thing they are courteous and polite not to make us feel offended.

    Use your imagination... it's hard for most... but this is what we really lack as a country. It's our major setback.

    No business is prospering without dependency in imported technology, infrastructure or products. Services - we can provide... but the moment supply of the mentioned items are cut - Pinoy business stops.

    We are not the Masters of the game... We are the GAME per se!

    How I wish we can put a stop to this pattern soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehnriko View Post
    When was the last time Filipinos think like Masters??? during Lapulapu times pa siguro.
    Filipinos were not united even during Lapu-Lapu's time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Magellan

    Rajah Humabon of Cebu was friendly towards Magellan and the Spaniards, both he and his queen Hara Amihan were baptized as Christians. Afterward, Rajah Humabon and his ally Datu Zula convinced Magellan to kill their enemy, Datu Lapu-Lapu, on Mactan. Magellan had wished to convert Lapu-Lapu to Christianity, as he had Humabon, a proposal of which Lapu-Lapu was dismissive. On the morning of April 27, 1521, Magellan sailed to Mactan with a small attack force. During the resulting battle against Lapu-Lapu's troops, Magellan was shot by a poisonous arrow and later surrounded and finished off with spears and other weapons.
    In the past it was Rajah Humabon vs Lapu-Lapu.

    Today it is Safeorigin vs Red Bureau or Lucius vs Tabularasa. Or Happylanders vs Unpatriotic Crustaceans . Nothing has changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donbuggy View Post
    Filipinos were not united even during Lapu-Lapu's time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Magellan



    In the past it was Rajah Humabon vs Lapu-Lapu.

    Today it is Safeorigin vs Red Bureau or Lucius vs Tabularasa. Or Happylanders vs Unpatriotic Crustaceans . Nothing has changed.
    ayan ang puno't dulo niyan. simula't-simula pa lang di na nagkaisa ang mga pilipino.

    hindi dahil "no filipino thinks like a master", kundi...everybody wants to be the master.

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    di niyo yata nakuha ang point ni ehnriko

    quote ko muna siya:

    The last thing these MASTER countries want is for us to start thinking like them.

    When was the last time Filipinos think like Masters??? during Lapulapu times pa siguro.

    Another way of putting it... we are at the bottom of the food chain.
    i think ehnriko didnt mean disunity among pinoys

    what he meant was Filipinos were never colonizers

    Europeans (the white race), Japanese were colonizers

    di sila makuntento sa sarili nilang lupain at kailangan nila sumakop ng ibang bansa

    colonizers are a different breed of people

    colonizers are restless, aggressive, cunning, ruthless

    born, bred, trained to think big, set big goals, do big things

    in the present day, they no longer go around conquering lands

    but we still see their colonizer ways

    they do things on a global scale

    their companies, their brands dominate the world

    pinoys are not colonizers

    pinoys are laidback people

    madali makuntento

    hindi aggressive

    pinoys didn't go around conquering other lands

    pinoys don't dominate

    pinoys are dominated

    ya i know all about that pinoy pride thing

    ya meron tayo Manny Pacquiao

    but what else do we have?

    what "global" thing does the Philippines have?

    OFWs

    pinoys are spread all over the world working for foreigners

    servants to masters

    i think that's what ehnriko meant
    Last edited by uls; April 6th, 2010 at 11:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post

    pinoys are laidback people

    madali makuntento
    dito lang ako agree.

    pinoys work as OFW's because its the best way to enrich themselves using their talents in the present economical condition of the country.

    ang di maganda dun e....when they reach the level where they are happy,.. wala na, tapos na, relak na. di naman lahat, pero karamihan. konti lang ang mag-iinvest to start their own business.

    dominate? pag-meron na, nang-dodominate ang mga pinoy. pati kapwa nila pinoy dinodominate nyan. look around.

    the foreigners are not colonizing us with their products, wala lang tayong panlaban. because everybody wants to be the master, ayaw magtulungan to start something. dito na nga lang sa tsikot, marami ang nag-aasta na bossing, know-it-all, master..etc. paano pa sa totoong community.

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    the foreigners are not colonizing us with their products, wala lang tayong panlaban.
    i didnt mean literal colonization

    what i meant by "their companies, their brands dominate the world" is global presence of their companies and brands

    Coca Cola, McDonalds, Toyota...

    http://www.interbrand.com/best_global_brands.aspx

    they're all over the world

    that's what i meant

    it's in their DNA

    descendants of colonizers are still like their ancestors

    they can't conquer geographically now, so they conquer by other means

    --

    anyway OT na

    back to topic

    Japan is screwing the Phils. with JPEPA

    they know we need their market (for our bananas, nurses and caregivers)

    and they need some place to dump their junk, industrial waste and garbage

    they don't dare dump their junk in the US, China, EU (Japan's major trading partners)

    Japan would never dare offend those countries

    Japan needs them

    but the Philippines... that former colony?

    they have no problem offending the Phils.

    Japan needs the Phils. less than the Phils. needs Japan

    the Phils. desperately needs someplace to send bananas, nurses and caregivers

    they know we'll take their junk (which includes used engines, vehicle parts) in return for the entry of our bananas, nurses and caregivers

    quoting ehnriko:

    Another way of putting it... we are at the bottom of the food chain.
    Last edited by uls; April 7th, 2010 at 11:17 AM.

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    we are at the bottom kasi we are all very busy trying to fullfill our own individual small dreams one-by-one as we encounter the opportunity. untill all of these small fullfilments are done, nobody will look forward to dream about bigger things. pinoys will always be interested to have that new iPhone, the designer bag, a condo unit, a CBU car..... status points so that they wont feel that they are looked down upon by their next door neighbor. mahilig tayo sa cosmetic solution, pwede na yan attitude.

    about the junk, if we can use it, its not junk. they better regulate the junk so we get the usable ones.
    Last edited by OyiL; April 7th, 2010 at 12:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    still an unanswered question: why do the Japanese automakers want to bring used engines and parts into the Phils.?
    To make their version of the PHUV? Does this mean they see a potential market for this type of vehicle?

    But it does not make sense. Using secondhand engines will increase the chances of something breaking and will negatively affect the image of the manufacturer. The first generation AUVs (those with corrugated panels) from Toyota, Ford, VW, etc. had new engines.

    As they say in Japan: "Wakaranai" ("I don't understand").

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    I don't think they will use the second hand components for their brand new units. They have strict standards for quality and they will not approve reconditioned engine/xmission for their local made vehicle.

    The used component will still go to the aftermarket segment which is also big. (Jeepney's, owner type jeep, and sometimes small boats).

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