The 2010 MVDP: Feat. the "Filipino Car" or Philippine Brand Vehicles

[jpdm]

ya, kanina pa siya umiiwas

yung point na na-brought up ko RE changing stance on PUJs

and yung galit niya sa Japan used...

pero meron siya sasakyan na Japan used ang engine (i remember may napost siya dati bumili siya ng OTJ or AUV or something)

wala

di niya kaya panindigan views niya

nagbabago when the wind blows

Hindi ako umiiwas. Sinungaling ka talaga.

Paano ako sasagot e puro imbento mo sinasabi mo sa akin.

Sinabi ko na sa iyo basahin mong mabuti ang mga posts ko para maintindihan mo pinagpipilitan mo pa rin ang Interpretations mo sa mga posts ko.

Magpakatino ka muna bago ko sagutin posts mo.

Tandaan nyo, kayo ni ghosthunter, you started to insult me for posting anti-smuggling articles and posts here. Ghosthunter even invented a story that Im anti-poor because Im denouncing smuggling.

Paano naging anti-poor ang pag-denounce ng isang illegal act like smuggling?


Naglagay na nga ako ng link pinagpipilitan mo pa ang argumento mo.

Wala naman tayong patutunguhan. I will argue you will oppose. If I will disagree..raratsada na insulto mo. pag lumaban ako,ayan na si gjhosthunter at niky.

para kayong kuyog dito.

Thats why nag-post nalang ako ng articles for people to discuss the issue.

[jpdm]

Obviously serious, and not sidetracking, like some people here?

*sigh*

Pot:Kettle, you know the rest. Except I'm not a Kettle. I am pretty brown, though. Go ahead and keep crying foul if you want to, or, you know, we could just debate like civilized people.

(oh, you can go ahead and fight with GH and uls, they enjoy it... I'm just here to debate).

I read between the lines niky.


By the way, are you abandoning your tag team? Its so uncanny, you post at the right time and the right moment...when things are heating up...Especially between your friend and uls and me. And your common enemy is me.What a coincidence, di ba niky? I admire you for coming to the defense of your friends.

Anyway,right now, Im in my office with alots of people following this lively debate between me and uls.

[ocanursjr]

Hindi ako umiiwas. Sinungaling ka talaga.

Paano ako sasagot e puro imbento mo sinasabi mo sa akin.

Sinabi ko na sa iyo basahin mong mabuti ang mga posts ko para maintindihan mo pinagpipilitan mo pa rin ang Interpretations mo sa mga posts ko.

Magpakatino ka muna bago ko sagutin posts mo.

Tandaan nyo, kayo ni ghosthunter, you started to insult me for posting anti-smuggling articles and posts here. Ghosthunter even invented a story that Im anti-poor because Im denouncing smuggling.

Paano naging anti-poor ang pag-denounce ng isang illegal act like smuggling?


Naglagay na nga ako ng link pinagpipilitan mo pa ang argumento mo.

Wala naman tayong patutunguhan. I will argue you will oppose. If I will disagree..raratsada na insulto mo. pag lumaban ako,ayan na si gjhosthunter at niky.

para kayong kuyog dito.

Thats why nag-post nalang ako ng articles for people to discuss the issue.

Don't worry * jpdm, alam ko na rin mga style nila. After that kung alam nilang they will not win with their arguments. Isasarado ni GH yung thread.

I remember this thread was closed sometime ago but forcibly open again. Hindi yata majustify ni supermoderator yung action nya kung bakit nya sinarado ito.

Ngayon alam ko na, they protect their own vested interest and so called successful junk businesses.

[jpdm]

Don't worry * jpdm, alam ko na rin mga style nila. After that kung alam nilang they will not win with their arguments. Isasarado ni GH yung thread.

I remember this thread was closed sometime ago but forcibly open again. Hindi yata majustify ni supermoderator yung action nya kung bakit nya sinarado ito.

Ngayon alam ko na, they protect their own vested interest and so called successful junk businesses.

Si uls nga bulang bula na bunganga sa kakainsulto sa akin. Si ghosthunter at niky came to the rescue.

Hindi patas lumaban mga ito.

Lahat yan dahil lang sa nagpo-post ako ng mga articles regarding the new government's promise to rid the country of rampant smuggling.

Nag-imbento pa ng istorya rich daw ako, anti poor at poor should not exist dahl anti-smuggling ako. itong si Uls na barbero gumawa na ng script at kwento.

Saan ka naman nakakita na lumalabas na masama pala ang maging anti-illegal activity (anti-smuggling) ka.

[uls]

hanggang ngayon di parin nagets

slow talaga eto

hindi sa smuggling articles nag umpisa ang pag tawag nila sayo ng anti poor

nag umpisa yan sa PUJ replacement article, yung Beep

diba ikaw ang numero unong supporter ng mga ethnic na sasakyan? (somebody pls post a link to the thread kung saan nagpost si jpdm nga mga pix ng PUJs that he's so proud of)

why didnt you come to the defense of your pathetic PUJs that are being threatened with extinction by stricter govt regulations?

alam mo baket?

masyado napunta ang loob mo sa mga new-car-makers

dahil sa tindi ng galit mo sa Japan used

so kahit pwede ma-outlaw ang PUJs at i-replace ng new mini buses made my Mitsubishi/Almazora, wala kang comment

kaya tinawag ka nila anti poor

coz you're on the side of the new-car-makers who stand to benefit from the abolition of the PUJ

gets mo na?

o kailangan pa ulitin sayo SLOWLY?

[uls]

kaya ko nasabi wala ka conviction

aside from past examples, this is the latest example of your weak conviction

madali ka ma-sway

mula nung nalaman mo nasa Japan used import sector ako, naging todo anti-Japan used ka

nakalimutan mo yata may sasakyan ka na Japan used ang makina

tapon mo na yan para di ka hypocrite

panindigan mo stand mo

ngayon todo anti-Japan used ka, huwag mo ipagmamalaki ang mga ethnic na sasakyan

kasi lahat yan japan used ang makina

yung mga AUV na ginagawa sa iloilo or whatever province

kung hindi brand new ang mga makina at piesa ng mga yan, huwag mo ipagmalaki from now on

coz now, you are totally anti-Japan used and totally pro-brand new

which is why they called you anti poor

dude

[uls]

o baka tumalon ka uli ng page

may reply ako sayo sa dulo ng previous page

[jpdm]

Back to regular programming.

Again an old article to prove that smuggling of vehicles is negatively affecting local industries and government revenues.


The success of the MVDP is anchored also on the ability of the government to strictly imposed laws prohibiting THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITY CALLED SMUGGLING.

No amount of spin can make an illegal act legitimate.

[SIZE=3]Presidential bets urged to stop car smuggling issue[/SIZE]

By ARIS R. ILAGAN
December 4, 2009, 1:53pm
Manila Bulletin


Officials of the Chamber of Automotive Manufacturers of the Philippines (CAMPI) Wednesday dared political personalities eyeing the presidential post to make [SIZE=3]a definite stand against smuggling of second-hand imported vehicles which is depriving the country of some P175 billion of annual revenue.[/SIZE]


Elizabeth H. Lee, CAMPI president, said: “Although there has been a positive growth of 2.3 percent for the first 11 months of 2009 with more than 127,000 units sold, more can be done to improve the local automotive industry primarily by stamping out the unabated smuggling of second-hand imported vehicles.”


Lee cited two factors in the positive growth rate of the local auto sales: the devastation of typhoon Ondoy that pushed owners of flood-damaged vehicles to purchase new units; and the influx of multi-billion peso remittances from overseas Filipino workers.


However, Lee pointed out that the local automotive business cannot be considered fully recovered when the present sales figures are compared with the 1996 sales chart which peaked to 162,095 units sold.


[SIZE=3]The CAMPI president noted that even with the laws against the importation of second-hand vehicles, used units – including high-value luxury cars – continue to land on the country’s shores through technical smuggling.
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She said a Supreme Court ruling in 2004 upheld a previous government ruling against the importation of second-hand vehicles, while Republic Act 8506 banned the importation of right-hand drive vehicles.


Former Senator Wigberto “Bobby” Tañada, chairman of the Fair Trade Alliance who was among the guest speakers during the CAMPI media conference, echoed the statements on the negative effects of the illegal importation of second-hand vehicles.


Citing government figures, Tañada said that in 2003, the LTO registered a total of 195,564 “new” vehicles but only 92,336 were from the sales of local automotive manufacturers and dealers.


“Smuggling must be stopped – it is literally killing thousands of jobs,” Tañada emphasized.


There are about 77,000 Filipinos who are directly employed in the local automotive industry with more than half a million dependents.


“It is the unabated smuggling and importation of second -hand vehicles and used engines and motor parts from Japan, United States and Korea, that have caused the local automotive market to decline,” the former senator said.


He also stressed the need to immediately pass into law the Anti-Smuggling Bill which has been approved by the House of Representatives but is still pending in the Senate.


http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGdLp8UB...muggling-issue

[uls]

hahahaha

umiwas na naman

i'll be back in a few hours

[jpdm]

kaya ko nasabi wala ka conviction

aside from past examples, this is the latest example of your weak conviction

madali ka ma-sway

mula nung nalaman mo nasa Japan used import sector ako, naging todo anti-Japan used ka

nakalimutan mo yata may sasakyan ka na Japan used ang makina

tapon mo na yan para di ka hypocrite

panindigan mo stand mo

ngayon todo anti-Japan used ka, huwag mo ipagmamalaki ang mga ethnic na sasakyan

kasi lahat yan japan used ang makina

yung mga AUV na ginagawa sa iloilo or whatever province

kung hindi brand new ang mga makina at piesa ng mga yan, huwag mo ipagmalaki from now on

coz now, you are totally anti-Japan used and totally pro-brand new

which is why they called you anti poor

dude

Hindi weak ang conviction ko. Baka ikaw dubious ang conviction mo.

Sabi ko sa iyo basahin mong mabuti at maigi ang mga posts ko.

Maling mali sinasabi mo. Hindi mo kasi iniintindi o hindi ka marunong umintindi.

Tsaka, wag kang masyadong magmagaling uls. Hindi ka magaling. Hindi ako kumbinsido sa mga sinasabi mo. Masyadong crude kung paano mo i-twist mga posts ko.

Faulty conclusions mo kasi obviously apektado kang mabuti sa mga articles na pino-post ko. At sa sobrang apektado mo iniinsulto mo ko sa paggamit ko ng articles. Pero pag ikaw ok lang.

Sabi ko na sa iyo walang patutunguhan ang argumento natin.


Gumagawa ka ng usap, nag-imbento ka ng istorya, hindi ka naniniwala sa mga sources na na provide ko at gusto mong paniwalaan lang sarili mo kasi feeling ang galing galing mo epaano pa?

Feeling mo mas magaling ka pa sa mga government officials, heads ng stakeholders ng auto industry at experts from the private sector na nag-provide ng info sa press release.


Pinagpipilitan mo interpretasyong mong mali-mali. lagi mong pinangangalandakan opinion mo laban sa articles (research paper made by professors from Kyoto university; press released from government and private sector ( DTI, BOI, CAMPI, MVPMAP, FTA, FPI)na pinost ko.

Between you opinion and their opinion obviously mas credible sila keysa sa iyo. Hindi ka na nga credible, polluted source ka pa (may vested interest ka pa.

Konting respeto naman uls, hindi ako batang paslit na pewede mong harapang lukohin.

Napakalinaw ng sinasabi ko.Ikaw lang nalalabuan kasi desperado kang protektahan ang interests mo.

At wag mo akong innsultuhin na wala akong alam. Hindi mo ako kilala.