Welcome to all owners of Toyota Fortuner [ARCHIVED]

Kakambal na talaga ng Fortuner ang Dealership woes. You cannot discuss the Fortuner without the dealership woes creeping into the discussion from time to time. The only way to stop this cycle is to get DTI (Department of Trade and Industry) involved on this issue or complain to a senator (perhaps Miriam Defensor-Santiago) para magkameron ng Senate hearing (in aid of legislation) about this malpractice.

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Originally Posted by jang

...I wonder about the rollover risk of the Fortuner, especially since it seems to have a high center of gravity.

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Yup! The risk for rollover of the Fortuner is much higher than cars or other vehicles with comparably lower centers of gravity. This is typical for most midsized to large SUVs. That is why if you're used to a car, you should adjust your driving habits when handling an SUV - no high speed turns or cornering...

Grabe, two weeks na wala pang plate yung Fortuner namin! T_T How 'bout u guys, how long did you wait for your plate?

5 working days but you should pay grease money

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Originally Posted by jang

Also, sales of the Fortuner will only be relfected in the 2005 financial statements. There's also the matter of transfer pricing, if taxes are lower in Thailand, Toyota could opt to recognize most of the profit in Thailand than over here.

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I think if ever TMPC resorts to transfer pricing schemes, they will favor the Philippines because of our ad valorem excise taxation. Thailand on the other hand has a system similar to our previous engine displacement based taxation. I heard that some of these imported cars are selling at retail prices at around 200 % of their landed cost (which is the basis of the excise tax).

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Originally Posted by vicoyski

We must remember that gross income is way different from net income... Also, the Fortuner is imported... Toyota Motor Philippines Corporation is not getting all of the P1.3M that we might pay for a unit. Most of it goes to Toyota Thailand and the government (in the form of excise taxes). If ever that TMPC indeed earned over P2.6B, do you even think they'd cheat on their taxes? All vehicle sales are traceable and all transactions have receipts, however unscrupulous the dealerships' tactics may be.

*Apexy: Hoax? You must be some kinda expert in uncovering hoaxes... :happy: Go and call CAMPI (Chamber of Automotive Manufacturers of the Philippines, Inc.). I've met their general secretary. They will gladly oblige in giving you the exact vehicle sales figures of Toyota, as all vehicle sales figures (regardless of manufacturer) are considered public information.

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Kaya sinabi ko "nagtatanong lang po" kasi it seems malakas ka sa Toyota kaibigan Vicosky.O di ngayon, alam na ng marami kung bakit :)
Pero dapat talaga ma imbestigahan yang gawa nang mga Toyota dealers na yan para di na maulit yang scam na yan.

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Originally Posted by ale828

Just a question. Has anyone of the Fortuner owner here has bought his Fortuner by Cash not in any kind of Financing? My dad was being offered a 2.5D Fortuner kasi but he doesn't wanna take the financing and just wanna pay cash. Someone told him na all Fortuner owners got theirs thru Financing daw.

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Yes. My uncle got his unit - 4x2 DSL 2.5L D4D. He paid cash. I was with him when we claimed the unit. Add-on was only leather seat & in-house insurance. THh price before was i think 1.315M + 65T leather seat.

He uses the unit daily without problems: eg: hard starting. He is very satisfied with the unit.

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Originally Posted by apexi_66

Kaya sinabi ko "nagtatanong lang po" kasi it seems malakas ka sa Toyota kaibigan Vicosky.O di ngayon, alam na ng marami kung bakit :)
Pero dapat talaga ma imbestigahan yang gawa nang mga Toyota dealers na yan para di na maulit yang scam na yan.

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I wish malakas ako sa Toyota... :happy: I would've gotten my unit within 3 days of my order, instead of 2 months. A colleague of mine is a nephew of the owner of 2 well known dealerships. He got his unit (a 2.7G VVTi) within 3 days of his order. I was planning on seeking his help, eh... Kaya lang, ayaw ko kasi magka-utang na loob... Our units arrived within 4 hours of each other, from different dealerships.

*everybody: I was able to chat with a D-4D Fortuner owner from Thailand. Since the launch of the Fortuner in Thailand, he has yet to hear of a D-4D owner who's had problems with choking or hardstarting. Kaya lang, all the D-4D Fortuner in Thailand are 3.0 liters. They don't have the 2.5 liter variant. He'll be updating me if ever he hears of problems with the 3.0 D-4D. You can catch the thread at the Thai forum of FortunerClub.Net.

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Originally Posted by vicoyski

Yup! The risk for rollover of the Fortuner is much higher than cars or other vehicles with comparably lower centers of gravity. This is typical for most midsized to large SUVs. That is why if you're used to a car, you should adjust your driving habits when handling an SUV - no high speed turns or cornering...

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does the fortuner have rollover safety ratings by an independent organization? like what the US has with the nhtsa? nhtsa has rollover ratings and chances in terms of percentage.

its funny we often read in magazines car reviews, stating car x is fun to drive better than car y. They say car x feels more solid and safer to drive but these are opinions rather than analytical conclusions. In the US you have organizations which literally crash these cars - they are fitted with crash test dummies that are wired up to a computer, a series or a set of cameras and sensors. At the end of the day they evaluate the numbers and can officially say this car is safer. i wish we have this in our country.

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Originally Posted by vicoyski

I wish malakas ako sa Toyota... :happy: I would've gotten my unit within 3 days of my order, instead of 2 months. A colleague of mine is a nephew of the owner of 2 well known dealerships. He got his unit (a 2.7G VVTi) within 3 days of his order. I was planning on seeking his help, eh... Kaya lang, ayaw ko kasi magka-utang na loob... Our units arrived within 4 hours of each other, from different dealerships.

*everybody: I was able to chat with a D-4D Fortuner owner from Thailand. Since the launch of the Fortuner in Thailand, he has yet to hear of a D-4D owner who's had problems with choking or hardstarting. Kaya lang, all the D-4D Fortuner in Thailand are 3.0 liters. They don't have the 2.5 liter variant. He'll be updating me if ever he hears of problems with the 3.0 D-4D. You can catch the thread at the Thai forum of FortunerClub.Net.

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Hi ive read from your first post that you got the 3.0v. I understand that this is an A/T. If so kumusta naman ung engine response? Ive driven an A/T pregio and grabe! napaka bagal its as if it'll take your forever to upshift. How about yours?

BTW, ung 2.5litre variant ba manual or matic?