The Ultimate Yaris

**thearsenal1205** · February 8th, 2021 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

Turbo gas is much better to drive. Even the cars with small displacement turbo gas engines are better in terms of acceleration against the usual crop of PPVs, pickups, and MPVs.

Except the Euro turbo diesels, they are more refined and better in driving feel.

If you want to make the most of NA gas engines, rev them higher.

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agreed. like the GR yaris which has a 1.6L three cylinder turbo that makes nearly a 300hp. not just that even larger turbo gas engines like lancer evo, gtr, supra etc..

**ninjababez** · February 11th, 2021 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

Turbo gas is much better to drive. Even the cars with small displacement turbo gas engines are better in terms of acceleration against the usual crop of PPVs, pickups, and MPVs.

Except the Euro turbo diesels, they are more refined and better in driving feel.

If you want to make the most of NA gas engines, rev them higher.

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bro baka masagot nyo, bakit mas mataas gain ng HP and torque sa speedlab pag PPV with turbo diesels vs e.g. NA sedans like civic etc

**Egan101** · February 11th, 2021 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by ninjababez

bro baka masagot nyo, bakit mas mataas gain ng HP and torque sa speedlab pag PPV with turbo diesels vs e.g. NA sedans like civic etc

Because of the turbocharger. If no turbocharger yung Diesel engine, low gains rin yun. Think of a tuned Adventure, hehehe.

Turbo gas engines can have better gains when tuned properly. Yung old Legacy GT 2.5T is rated stock around 270hp/350Nm but if tuned, some can do 400hp/500Nm. Yung WRX STi ng owner ng GAT Performance is tuned to 500hp.

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**ninjababez** · February 11th, 2021 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

Because of the turbocharger. If no turbocharger yung Diesel engine, low gains rin yun. Think of a tuned Adventure, hehehe.

Turbo gas engines can have better gains when tuned properly. Yung old Legacy GT 2.5T is rated stock around 270hp/350Nm but if tuned, some can do 400hp/500Nm. Yung WRX STi ng owner ng GAT Performance is tuned to 500hp.

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thanks! laki nga talon ng naka turbo

**uls** · February 11th, 2021 01:45 PM

diesel engines are very torquey to begin with

halos lahat ng lakas available sa low rpm range unlike gas engines

and diesel engines are stronger/thicker/more robust than gas engines so mas kayang kaya maghandle ng boost

**Egan101** · February 11th, 2021 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by uls

diesel engines are very torquey to begin with

halos lahat ng lakas available sa low rpm range unlike gas engines

and diesel engines are stronger/thicker/more robust than gas engines so mas kayang kaya maghandle ng boost

Well, some gas turbo engines already have their peak torque available as early as 1500 rpm. These usually apply to Euro cars.

For the usual gas turbo engines, peak torque is around 2000 to 5500 rpm. Turbo diesel couldn’t keep up with such a wider rpm band plus turbo gas gets more power for the same displacement. Most gas engines get peak power at 6k rpm. What more with those gas engines with an 8k redline?

Turbo Diesel engines are more robust thus they are preferred for use in trucks. In terms of performance, it can’t stack up with turbo gas engines. Mayrun bang performance car na diesel? Wala eh.

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**jigeloh** · February 11th, 2021 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

Well, some gas turbo engines already have their peak torque available as early as 1500 rpm. These usually apply to Euro cars.

For the usual gas turbo engines, peak torque is around 2000 to 5500 rpm. Turbo diesel couldn’t keep up with such a wider rpm band plus turbo gas gets more power for the same displacement. Most gas engines get peak power at 6k rpm. What more with those gas engines with an 8k redline?

Turbo Diesel engines are more robust thus they are preferred for use in trucks. In terms of performance, it can’t stack up with turbo gas engines. Mayrun bang performance car na diesel? Wala eh.

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**uls** · February 11th, 2021 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Egan101

Well, some gas turbo engines already have their peak torque available as early as 1500 rpm. These usually apply to Euro cars.

For the usual gas turbo engines, peak torque is around 2000 to 5500 rpm. Turbo diesel couldn’t keep up with such a wider rpm band plus turbo gas gets more power for the same displacement. Most gas engines get peak power at 6k rpm. What more with those gas engines with an 8k redline?

Turbo Diesel engines are more robust thus they are preferred for use in trucks. In terms of performance, it can’t stack up with turbo gas engines. Mayrun bang performance car na diesel? Wala eh.

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wait lang did i sound pro diesel?

i was only saying mas makapal ang block ng diesel engines coz that's what they're designed for -- to handle a lot of pressure

coz kalabaw mga yan pang hila

kaya pwede mo lagyan ng malaking turbo mga yan dahil makapal mga block, mataba mga piesa

i don't like diesels i only owned 1 (a pajero) and never went back to diesel

dito lang sa Pinas meron romance with diesel

sa ibang bansa pang business lang ang diesel di pang personal use

**jut703** · February 12th, 2021 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by uls

wait lang did i sound pro diesel?

i was only saying mas makapal ang block ng diesel engines coz that's what they're designed for -- to handle a lot of pressure

coz kalabaw mga yan pang hila

kaya pwede mo lagyan ng malaking turbo mga yan dahil makapal mga block, mataba mga piesa

i don't like diesels i only owned 1 (a pajero) and never went back to diesel

dito lang sa Pinas meron romance with diesel

sa ibang bansa pang business lang ang diesel di pang personal use

If you’ve been to Europe, super obsessed din sila sa diesels dun.

Pinakamabentang BMW is the 320d.

Of course switching na rin to electric/hybrid, but outside of Scandinavia, low adoption pa rin relatively.

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**thearsenal1205** · February 12th, 2021 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by uls

dito lang sa Pinas meron romance with diesel

sa ibang bansa pang business lang ang diesel di pang personal use

exactly what to blame is yung mga PUVs like UV express, jeepneys, buses lahat powered by diesel kaya mababa ang price sa gasoline.

Pang commercial vehicles lang yung diesel sa ibang countries like for example, North America (U.S., Canada, Mexico) yung mga diesel lang nila is yung mga heavy duty pickups like the Ford super duty F250-750 powerstroke, chevy silverado hd /gmc sierra hd duramax, ram hd cummins. even yung vans nila katulad ng ford transit (same engine ng everest/ranger 2.0 bi turbo) , chevy express (same engine sa colorado/trailblazer 2.8 duramax)

medyo rare sa kanila ang diesel cars and suvs. may pickup na light duty sila na diesel pero di mabenta unlike dito sa pinas and other countries. note that may ford f150 sa states na may diesel pero here ecoboost gas lang ang available. (Maybe not to cannibalize ranger sales?)