2018 Toyota Vios

[dr. d]

Think of it this way. Vios is still PH made. So you help our economy by buying one [emoji16]

Toyota can get away with anything. Given they are the biggest car company worldwide. What irks me is they still use 4 speed A/T in todays CVT & 5-6 speed transmission world.


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their 4AT is a proven item.
"why replace something that has proven its longevity, with something that has yet to prove itself?"
my guess is, toyota is still tweaking its cvts, so that it will be virtually bulletproof. that's probably when it will go cvt 100%.

[TheUninvited]

Oh. Not in the Vios. Some of their models i mean. Like the Rush for example. [emoji16]


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It's Daihatsu anyway.

[mda]

It's Daihatsu anyway.

As easy as it is to bash Daihatsu, it's a 100% owned subsidiary of Toyota.

It really isn't a bad thing though.

[playplugg]

Vios..

Still, Vios pa rin..

[jut703]

Think of it this way. Vios is still PH made. So you help our economy by buying one [emoji16]

Toyota can get away with anything. Given they are the biggest car company worldwide. What irks me is they still use 4 speed A/T in todays CVT & 5-6 speed transmission world.


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When the 3rd gen Vios was launched, it had a 1.3L 4AT while Hyundai had the 1.4 6AT Accent.

On paper, the Hyundai seems to have an advantage but in practice, the Vios had a peppier engine with better spaced gears. The 4AT had good acceleration in first and second gear for city driving, while 4th gear was long enough for relaxed rpms on highway driving. The Accent on the other hand always hunted for gears and somehow always felt out of the powerband.

Point is - a 4AT isn't necessarily bad as long as it's done right.

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[playplugg]

When the 3rd gen Vios was launched, it had a 1.3L 4AT while Hyundai had the 1.4 6AT Accent.

On paper, the Hyundai seems to have an advantage but in practice, the Vios had a peppier engine with better spaced gears. The 4AT had good acceleration in first and second gear for city driving, while 4th gear was long enough for relaxed rpms on highway driving. The Accent on the other hand always hunted for gears and somehow always felt out of the powerband.

Point is - a 4AT isn't necessarily bad as long as it's done right.

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As long as po na proper timing pag dating sa 4AT... lalo kung sanay sa MT..

CVT..

"Virtual-Gear"


Appreciated ko ang CVT kung "Hybrid"

[hardwang]

Think of it this way. Vios is still PH made. So you help our economy by buying one [emoji16]

Toyota can get away with anything. Given they are the biggest car company worldwide. What irks me is they still use 4 speed A/T in todays CVT & 5-6 speed transmission world.


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The honda city is PH made (or assembled, I forgot) too, and that’s a better car than the vios. Looks better and has more features.

[StockEngine]

The honda city is PH made (or assembled, I forgot) too, and that’s a better car than the vios. Looks better and has more features.

The locally made vios... has a more superior CVT [emoji6]

Guess how many cvts Honda ph has replaced.

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[jut703]

As long as po na proper timing pag dating sa 4AT... lalo kung sanay sa MT..

CVT..

"Virtual-Gear"


Appreciated ko ang CVT kung "Hybrid"

I had a Civic with a 5AT and currently have a Civic with a CVT. Same engine for both (1.8L). The Civic with the CVT is significantly better - smoother, better FC, better performance.

CVTs have evolved a lot over the past decade and are well-matched to most people's driving needs.

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[hardwang]

The locally made vios... has a more superior CVT [emoji6]

Guess how many cvts Honda ph has replaced.

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The newer ones or the 1st gen CVT from the “ipis” city?

Haven’t heard any issues with the newer ones. The 1st gen CVTs were faulty though.