South Korea gives trucks to Philippine military

[yebo]

di lang f5 jets and trucks na-donate ng sk sa pinas, the fastest ships in the philippine navy came from south korea. they donated 6 sea dolphin class 170 ton patrol ships and sold 12 sea hawk/sea killer class 74 ton patrol boats at the frienship price of $100 each. both types have a top speed of 38 knots.

i saw 2 sea hawk/sea killer class boats when we were drilling in sulu sea (PN boats were there to secure us from abu sayyaf and also since we were drilling only a few kilometers from malaysian waters). they were fast but you can hear them from miles away, maingay yung engines. their captains went up our rig to have lunch 1 day. wala daw budget for maintenance ang afp that is why when they provide security to oil drilling rigs their commanders make sure that part of the contract is that the oil companies provide the engine oil, etc. that is the only time they can change the oil on the engines and other equipment. they take advantage of such arrangement by making sure they rotate the patrol boats that provide security. so the whole time we were in sulu, even though there were suppose to be only 2 patrol boats guarding us we actually provided oil changes for 4 boats.

this lack of a budget for maintenance is also the reason why afp equipments do not last long. if a piece of equipment breaks down then that basically becomes spare part. remember the 3 patrol ships that were sold by britain to the philippines when hong kong was turned over to china? 1 of the ships became the spare parts supply for the other 2 a very short time later.

[CVT]

Goverrnment officials are small fry too. Let's say we have 200 congressmen, given PhP 20-50M each in pork barrel. Let's say they steal 100% of it, that's about P4 to 10 Billion. That's peanuts, compared to P200 Billion lost each year due to tax evasion... And they can't possibly steal all that every single year. More likely they can pocket 5 to 10% of it without raising eyebrows.

E di ba't tax evaders din iyang mga g*ngg$ng at buwaya na iyan!!! Doble na ang kabulastugan nila!

Dapat, malinis ang gobyerno,- bago malinis nila ang iba't-ibang aspeto ng bansa natin....

Dapat sa mga iyan, ibitin ng patiwarik at......

2401:massbounce:

[Blackraven]

Wala sa mga taxpayer ang problema, nasa mga namamahala. Kahit magbayad pa tayo ng tama wala pa ring pupuntahan ang 40% ng mga taxes natin kundi sa mga bulsa ng mga tiwaling pulitiko.

Half correct but the other half of this kind of logic is wrong.

I don't agree with the other part of you're statement. Are you trying to defend the tax-evading professionals by putting the blame on the government first? Making the other half of your statement as a plain excuse?

May totoo nga yung sinasabi mo. There is obvious widespread corruption and misuse of funds (I won't deny that) pero does this serve as an excuse for tax evasions by professionals???

I have to slightly agree with mazdamazda on this issue. However, my response would be that the change must not only start with the government, it has to begin on different sectors as well. Or rather it should be the responsibility of all concerned (not one party first before the other as what CVT said earlier)

[Syuryuken]

Half correct but the other half of this kind of logic is wrong.

I don't agree with the other part of you're statement. Are you trying to defend the tax-evading professionals by putting the blame on the government first? Making the other half of your statement as a plain excuse?

May totoo nga yung sinasabi mo. There is obvious widespread corruption and misuse of funds (I won't deny that) pero does this serve as an excuse for tax evasions by professionals???

I have to slightly agree with mazdamazda on this issue. However, my response would be that the change must not only start with the government, it has to begin on different sectors as well. Or rather it should be the responsibility of all concerned (not one party first before the other as what CVT said earlier)

I'm not defending those tax evaders. Ang pamahalaan mismo ang walang pangil para kasuhan ang mga tax evaders na yan. At ano ang ginagawa ng pamahalaan? hindi ba binibigyan nila ng amnesty para bumaba ang kanilang babayaran na buwis? samantalang kaya naman nilang singilin ang tamang buwis na kanilang dapat bayaran. Pagpapatupad ng batas ang kulang sa atin kaya ang pagbabago dapat manggagaling sa taas at hindi sa baba.

Peace!

[Blackraven]

I'm not defending those tax evaders. Ang pamahalaan mismo ang walang pangil para kasuhan ang mga tax evaders na yan. At ano ang ginagawa ng pamahalaan? hindi ba binibigyan nila ng amnesty para bumaba ang kanilang babayaran na buwis? samantalang kaya naman nilang singilin ang tamang buwis na kanilang dapat bayaran. Pagpapatupad ng batas ang kulang sa atin kaya ang pagbabago dapat manggagaling sa taas at hindi sa baba.

Peace!

Now that's better.

Although medyo conflicting din yung last phrase mo "kaya ang pagbabago dapat manggaling sa taas at hindi sa baba", at least I agree with the bolded statement.

Still, I believe that the change should not come from the government first. It has to come from both ends. It's just like a 4WD/AWD vehicle. Load/responsibility must be handled by all wheels (not just the front or the rear). to maintain stability and traction in any situation. If you just let either only the front wheels (gives torque steer) or rear wheels (slippage during wet conditions) to do thw work, you're not gonna get much. All wheels must carry responsibility.

Simply put, it's up to all parties involved to help bring and make the change into a reality.

Pero sige....
If that's your opinion, then sige I'll try my best not to question your belief on it any further.

[oldblue]

di lang f5 jets and trucks na-donate ng sk sa pinas, the fastest ships in the philippine navy came from south korea. they donated 6 sea dolphin class 170 ton patrol ships and sold 12 sea hawk/sea killer class 74 ton patrol boats at the frienship price of $100 each. both types have a top speed of 38 knots.

i saw 2 sea hawk/sea killer class boats when we were drilling in sulu sea (PN boats were there to secure us from abu sayyaf and also since we were drilling only a few kilometers from malaysian waters). they were fast but you can hear them from miles away, maingay yung engines. their captains went up our rig to have lunch 1 day. wala daw budget for maintenance ang afp that is why when they provide security to oil drilling rigs their commanders make sure that part of the contract is that the oil companies provide the engine oil, etc. that is the only time they can change the oil on the engines and other equipment. they take advantage of such arrangement by making sure they rotate the patrol boats that provide security. so the whole time we were in sulu, even though there were suppose to be only 2 patrol boats guarding us we actually provided oil changes for 4 boats.

this lack of a budget for maintenance is also the reason why afp equipments do not last long. if a piece of equipment breaks down then that basically becomes spare part. remember the 3 patrol ships that were sold by britain to the philippines when hong kong was turned over to china? 1 of the ships became the spare parts supply for the other 2 a very short time later.

if that's the case, then mukang masasayang nga iyan 100+ truck donations na yan. maintenance na lang poproblemahin, di pa din kaya ng military natin.

maybe the Koreans should have donated the trucks to the DPWH or Bayani's MMDA instead. sana ibenta na lang ng mga generals yun trucks kila Bayani hehehe. yun nga lang baka sumama loob ng Koreans

pero bakit nga ba sa military binigay mga engineering equips na ito, as if may function ang army engineers natin katulad ng America. even sa Mindanao, di ba mga US military equipments din ang ginamit to rebuild the captured MILF camp, yun abubakar ba yun

[empy]

kayo naman...gracia na nga nahanapan pa ng negative :hihihi:

[artpogi]

kayo naman...gracia na nga nahanapan pa ng negative :hihihi:

exactly!