Stainless Steel braided brake hoses

**niky** · May 7th, 2014 11:57 AM

Stainless steel brake lines are useless until you change everything else.

Or more specifically: I used to run slotted rotors, high-heat brake pads, DOT4 fluid and stainless brake lines on my car.

Had a pad change once, couldn't get the pads I liked (Hawk), so had to settle for local pads, in the meantime. The braking was crap. Fad resistance was crap. Far before you ever got to the point where the brake fluid started heating up and those fancy stainless lines started earning their pay, the pads would give up the ghost.

And this goes for any street driven car. Your tires, brake pads and brake fluid will all go far south before your rubber brake lines start becoming a problem.

Stainless steel braided lines DO help. They help if you've got a car running aggressive rubber and brakes and you are doing a competitive twenty or thirty lap race on the track. One where you need to go from 160-200 km/h down to about 80-100 at the end of the main straight lap-after-lap-after-lap (Subic was the worst... 160+++ down to a freaking 180 degree hairpin! I've seen a lot of brakes catch fire there...

) On the streets, you will either get yourself killed or in really, really big trouble long before the lines make a difference.

If you want a brake upgrade, upgrade your fluid, change your pads for something better, and get some real rubber at those corners. For most spirited driving, this is more than enough. And if you plan to do the type of driving on the streets that actually requires the lines, may God have mercy on your soul. Because that tree up ahead won't.

**paolorenzo** · May 7th, 2014 12:30 PM

It's a 15+ year old CRV. Rotors are damaged and need replacing. The price of refacing or replacing isn't very much cheaper than slotted rotors and ceramic brake pads online. And since I'm already doing that upgrade, it only makes sense (at least for me) to also consider the brake line upgrade.

So for me, it isn't BS. Thanks for your insight. I'll ask the mechanic if hoses can still endure another 5 years.

**foresterx** · May 7th, 2014 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by paolorenzo

It's a 15+ year old CRV. Rotors are damaged and need replacing. The price of refacing or replacing isn't very much cheaper than slotted rotors and ceramic brake pads online. And since I'm already doing that upgrade, it only makes sense (at least for me) to also consider the brake line upgrade.

So for me, it isn't BS. Thanks for your insight. I'll ask the mechanic if hoses can still endure another 5 years.

just get a regular rotor, no need to pay more for a slotted rotor which you won't ever need. i doubt anyone tracks their CRV so just save your money and get a regular rotor.

**yebo** · May 7th, 2014 05:41 PM

CRV pala.

Too slow, este too short! Too short!

**miked** · May 8th, 2014 09:10 AM

last brake R&R ko sa kabayo ko e brake hose (4 hoses), master cylinder tsaka LSPV. nagimprove ang braking action (nabawasan ang spongy feel). ang problema ko na lang ngayon e kung pano maeliminate yung flexing ng firewall. biruin mo, pinaapak ko lang sa misis ko yung brake pedal e halatang gumagalaw yung master cylinder assembly.

kung daily driver lang naman at no need bilang performance race car e stock specs ka na lang...set aside mo na lang yung extra cost for other maintenance ng sasakyan. pero kung wala ka magawa sa pera (no offense meant), e di ikaw pa rin masusunod. btw, it's your money.

bit OT here pero eto napansin ko. sa mga sedan na nadrive ko (accent, lancer, etc) e mas matigas ang pedal feel tsaka mas maaga ang braking action while sa mga LSPV equipped na vehicles (pickups, innova) e mas spongy ang feeling. naiinis nga mga pasahero ko (tsaka ako na rin) kapag kotse ang dinadrive ko dahil kaunting apak ko lang e talaga namang nagda-dive kami sa sasakyan. mas maraming apak ang kelangan ko bago ako mafamiliarize sa brake pedal sensitivity ng mga sedan kesa sa mga pickup, van, auvs. sa aking obserbasyon at experience lang naman.

**enzo6k** · May 8th, 2014 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by miked

last brake R&R ko sa kabayo ko e brake hose (4 hoses), master cylinder tsaka LSPV. nagimprove ang braking action (nabawasan ang spongy feel). ang problema ko na lang ngayon e kung pano maeliminate yung flexing ng firewall. biruin mo, pinaapak ko lang sa misis ko yung brake pedal e halatang gumagalaw yung master cylinder assembly.

meron bracket para dyan, hindi ko lang alam kung san may nabibili dito, kasi naghahanap din ako hehe

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**miked** · May 8th, 2014 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by enzo6k

meron bracket para dyan, hindi ko lang alam kung san may nabibili dito, kasi naghahanap din ako hehe

haha. nice. binigyan moko ng ideya. salamat. makapagfabricate nga ako nyan. oras lang naman ang problema ko ngayon e

**enzo6k** · May 8th, 2014 12:05 PM

thanks!

back to topic, oks lang ba yung mga local fabricated ss brake lines?

**miked** · May 8th, 2014 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by enzo6k

thanks!

back to topic, oks lang ba yung mga local fabricated ss brake lines?

bakit interesado ka rin ba? di yan sulit kung daily driver lang ika nga ng usapan sa taas

**enzo6k** · May 8th, 2014 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by miked

bakit interesado ka rin ba? di yan sulit kung daily driver lang ika nga ng usapan sa taas

yes, im using levin big disc on my ae101 right now, bitin pa din ang braking performance nya pag nasa track, im planning to go twin pot sabay na din sana palit ng brake lines. masyado na malaki ang budget if twin pot + upgraded pads + branded ss brake lines, aabutin na ng 30k total hahaha