For the Nth time, a broken wheel stud

**oj88** · November 30th, 2012 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by wowiesy

May nakita ako lithium grease. Water proof nakalagay sa spray can... Pwede ba yun? So far ala ako mahanap na neverseize.

No, don't use any other types of grease. It should be capable of handling high temperature. Typically, copper grease is used to serve as both lubricant and anti-seizing compound.

I still have this lying in the garage that I use on my bikes' brake pads (back side), guide pins and anywhere it requires an anti-seize grease. I've had it for more than 10 years I think that I've forgotten where I bought it from.

**Type 100** · November 30th, 2012 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by wowiesy

thanks guys.. will try that anti sieze... and also the torque wrench...

ang weird lang kasi... sa mga naging service ko (revo, innova, ranger) di naman nagkakaganito.... now na subaru... dito pa nagkakaganito...

i somehow get the idea of using a torque wrench.. but.. it is quite rare to see torque wrench being used sa pag change lang ng tires / spares...

so mukhang kailangan na ilagay torque wrench / anti siezing agent sa car as regular tool box stuff...

Yes, its use is rather rare. The only place I've seen mechanics use a torque wrench on lugnuts is AutoPlus, and they're not exactly your run-of-the-mill garage. If you're interested in buying your own, I got mine at True Value, although not all the branches have it in stock and you might have to do some cross-shopping to see the micrometer type I recommend.

For Japanese cars there are two different thread pitches for lug bolts and lugnuts.
M12x1.5 is the more common variety used by Mitsubishi, Toyota, Daihatsu, Honda and Suzuki, among others.
M12x1.25, the smaller thread pitch, is used by Nissan and Subaru (I'm not sure who else).
This still doesn't explain why you had lug bolt trouble with your Subaru, though...I maintain that if torque is correct, then bad metallurgy is to blame.

**jodski** · November 30th, 2012 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Type 100

Yes, its use is rather rare. The only place I've seen mechanics use a torque wrench on lugnuts is AutoPlus, and they're not exactly your run-of-the-mill garage. If you're interested in buying your own, I got mine at True Value, although not all the branches have it in stock and you might have to do some cross-shopping to see the micrometer type I recommend.

Sir,

Can you be more specific on the True Value branch/location where you got the torque wrench? I just need to know if its near our place... Thanks

**Type 100** · November 30th, 2012 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by jodski

Sir,

Can you be more specific on the True Value branch/location where you got the torque wrench? I just need to know if its near our place... Thanks

I got mine at True Value Park Square. There's another branch within walking distance at the new Glorietta 1 3F.

**jodski** · November 30th, 2012 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Type 100

I got mine at True Value Park Square. There's another branch within walking distance at the new Glorietta 1 3F.

Thanks! madalas din ako mapadaan dito :hooray:

**wowiesy** · November 30th, 2012 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by oj88

No, don't use any other types of grease. It should be capable of handling high temperature. Typically, copper grease is used to serve as both lubricant and anti-seizing compound.

I still have this lying in the garage that I use on my bikes' brake pads (back side), guide pins and anywhere it requires an anti-seize grease. I've had it for more than 10 years I think that I've forgotten where I bought it from.

Copper grease? Iba pa yun?

**wowiesy** · November 30th, 2012 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Type 100

Yes, its use is rather rare. The only place I've seen mechanics use a torque wrench on lugnuts is AutoPlus, and they're not exactly your run-of-the-mill garage. If you're interested in buying your own, I got mine at True Value, although not all the branches have it in stock and you might have to do some cross-shopping to see the micrometer type I recommend.

For Japanese cars there are two different thread pitches for lug bolts and lugnuts.
M12x1.5 is the more common variety used by Mitsubishi, Toyota, Daihatsu, Honda and Suzuki, among others.
M12x1.25, the smaller thread pitch, is used by Nissan and Subaru (I'm not sure who else).
This still doesn't explain why you had lug bolt trouble with your Subaru, though...I maintain that if torque is correct, then bad metallurgy is to blame.

Nkakita na ako handyman ng torque wrench..

Duda ako d kaya yung nut ay iba ang thread spec sa thread spec ng stud?

Sa youtube on how to use torque wrench... Bale may extension bar pa then socket wrench.... Anong size ba ilan mm usually mga nut ng tires?

Yung anti seizing agent talaga san nakabili? Another one broke off yesterday as i bought rubber for the damaged one... Nasira sa banawe nung nagpalit ng gulong uli...

**oj88** · November 30th, 2012 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by wowiesy

Copper grease? Iba pa yun?

Most anti-seize lubricants and grease are copper-based.

**Type 100** · November 30th, 2012 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by wowiesy

Nkakita na ako handyman ng torque wrench..

Duda ako d kaya yung nut ay iba ang thread spec sa thread spec ng stud?

Sa youtube on how to use torque wrench... Bale may extension bar pa then socket wrench.... Anong size ba ilan mm usually mga nut ng tires?

A torque wrench is meant to be used with a socket set, so it should be able to tighten, loosen and set torque to any bolt or nut as long as you have the socket for it. The torque wrench is the bar you're referring to - it's NOT an extension or breaker bar.

Lugnuts are measured externally by hex size. A typical cross wrench can work on four of the most common lugnut sizes: 17mm, 19mm, 21mm and 23mm. On my Jazz the stock lugnut size is 19mm hex, although I moved to 17mm to fit my current wheels and 21mm on my old ones. Hex size should not be an issue with breaking lug bolts.

If you still have stock lugnuts I doubt they have the wrong thread size. Cross-threading would usually occur if you swapped out the stock lugnuts for aftermarket ones without matching the thread pitch.

**wowiesy** · November 30th, 2012 09:54 PM

Wala sa manual ng subaru yung torque settings so have to check casa siguro...

Weird lang talaga... Napuputol stud kapag niluluwagan yung nut... Yung isa nga halos totally loose na dun pa sumabit ... So higpit ng konti... Then luwag uli... A couple of times... Bumigay pa rin....

Anyway saw copper grease na sa concorde... Will get torque wrench na rin to tighten it to specs... ( i used to think na sa engine ang applicable yung ma tighten to the right torque yung mga bolts and nuts...pati pala tire studs... ).

But i think i got another step clser to just selling off this subaru...